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Jul 20 2023 06:55am
This does not mean a character is bad

This does not mean a build is bad

Level 50+ NM Dungeon is the end game, requires heavy Min/Max and should not be a breeze.

Sure, it goes up to 100, but even 50 is supposed to be an extreme challenge.

Do not base your character's strength and your fun playing it upon being able to speed clear 50-70+ NM Dungeons..

If he can have fun doing everything else, you are doing fine!
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Jul 20 2023 07:05am
wat
50 is ez
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Jul 20 2023 07:10am
If 50 is supposed to be "an extreme challenge" then why is 100 there? 50 additional levels to an extreme challenge is actually impossible. Your argument lacks substance.
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Jul 20 2023 07:14am
Quote (Vastet @ Jul 20 2023 06:10am)
If 50 is supposed to be "an extreme challenge" then why is 100 there? 50 additional levels to an extreme challenge is actually impossible. Your argument lacks substance.


And then we doubled it
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Jul 20 2023 07:31am
Quote (Vastet @ Jul 20 2023 09:10am)
If 50 is supposed to be "an extreme challenge" then why is 100 there? 50 additional levels to an extreme challenge is actually impossible. Your argument lacks substance.


Because additional levels aren't difficult to add and there will be more builds people think of as time progresses.
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Jul 20 2023 07:32am
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Because additional levels aren't difficult to add and there will be more builds people think of as time progresses.


Then why doesn't it go to 1000?
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Then why doesn't it go to 1000?


Because there isn't much point in it right now and it would make the sigil crafting menu scroll when no one's going to be going that far anytime soon?
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Jul 20 2023 07:55am
News flash: people are still “easily” clearing NM 100

News flash: plebs/casuals will always dislike this because they can’t do it :baby: too.
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Jul 20 2023 07:56am
Quote (Bvbeatings @ Jul 20 2023 02:55pm)
This does not mean a character is bad

This does not mean a build is bad

Level 50+ NM Dungeon is the end game, requires heavy Min/Max and should not be a breeze.

Sure, it goes up to 100, but even 50 is supposed to be an extreme challenge.

Do not base your character's strength and your fun playing it upon being able to speed clear 50-70+ NM Dungeons..

If he can have fun doing everything else, you are doing fine!


just a quick example, is it FUN to wait 30% longer for your skills to go off cooldown? no matter if its nm dungeon or whatever its just a BAD change and so is mostly everything else + no realy good changes
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Jul 20 2023 08:15am
Quote (Veszerin @ 20 Jul 2023 09:52)
Because there isn't much point in it right now and it would make the sigil crafting menu scroll when no one's going to be going that far anytime soon?


Why does it matter if there isn't much point in 1000 when there isn't much point in 100 either? There's probably, at most, 10,000 people who can pull off a 100. Out of an estimated 4-10 million players that's insignificant in every measure. Might as well have 1000 in there. There is a non-zero chance someone would have pulled it off by now. Don't have to clutter anything up just put in another tab.
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