D4 Pvp As A Barb - Topic

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Jul 8 2023 07:20pm

I've made 20+ characters with a specific interest in pvp builds this one is sub optimal. only level 65 with trash gems but the only class that can kill me in pvp (wt4) regularly is a rouge or other barbs and that's a very specific build.. usually 20+ levels above me.. barb needs a nerf its the king of pvp period.

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Jul 8 2023 09:04pm

Nah, watch the tournaments on Twitch. Rogue is king of 1v1.

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Jul 9 2023 12:59am

I hope to god nerfs and "balance" wont happen based on some public pk noob bashing.

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Jul 9 2023 02:09am

Quote (cjw236 @ 9 Jul 2023 05:04)

Nah, watch the tournaments on Twitch. Rogue is king of 1v1.

Only when a Rogue is playing "catch" and using full poison imbue otherwise Hota Barbs will One/Twoshot everything.

There is no counter to Poison right now due to the fact of non working resistance. Thanks Blizzard.
Also there is no counter to the 1% PvP Hota Barbs. If they increase the overall DR in the PvP Zone other classes deal even less damage.

Quote (jointit @ 9 Jul 2023 08:59)

I hope to god nerfs and "balance" wont happen based on some public pk noob bashing.

The whole PvP Thing is just bad implemented and this PvE Game is not designed for pvp. Balancing will never work.

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Jul 9 2023 02:12am

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And if anything, 1v1 hierarchy is rogue > bulwark Druid > Hota atm.

PvP is best suited for mirrors (rvr, bvb, etc.) or teamplay (2v2, 3v3). Ofc classes/builds are going to be uneven in a pvm-first ARPG. But the OP’s post was about how HOTA is king in 1v1, and it’s not. It’s third at best at the highest level (tourney play, top streamers, kill ladder @ d4armory).

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This post was edited by cjw236 on Jul 9 2023 02:18am

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Jul 9 2023 02:35am

The fact that you bring up Bulwark a skill which doesnt work correctly and getting abused makes this discussion kinda silly.
I will take a look into that Rogue - but please tell me first if he is poison imbue build or not.

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Jul 9 2023 02:42am

Quote (Abx @ Jul 9 2023 04:35am)

Huh? Who argued balance? It’s a pvm-first ARPG, which is why I said mirrors were a better dictation of skill/competition. And are you totally losing sight of OP’s original topic or not? He’s saying barbs are king and they aren’t. They’re consistently losing to the aforementioned two above.

And he uses several builds and gear swaps depending on match up.

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Jul 9 2023 03:37am

Quote (cjw236 @ Jul 9 2023 09:12am)

Watch revik (top rogue) on YouTube and Kussan (top Hota) on twitch (tournament competitor). Revik does not get one shot by hota barbs ever. And certainly never loses a best out of 3 or 5 against any barbs. Not sure what you’re referencing ^Abx

And if anything, 1v1 hierarchy is rogue > bulwark Druid > Hota atm.

PvP is best suited for mirrors (rvr, bvb, etc.) or teamplay (2v2, 3v3). Ofc classes/builds are going to be uneven in a pvm-first ARPG. But the OP’s post was about how HOTA is king in 1v1, and it’s not. It’s third at best at the highest level (tourney play, top streamers, kill ladder @ d4armory). ^Abx

Lol reviks build is crap

I thought rogue was best til yesterday.

Good barb is number 1 they can be close to unkillable like that stupid druid build.

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Jul 9 2023 05:26am

Quote (cjw236 @ 9 Jul 2023 05:04)

Nah, watch the tournaments on Twitch. Rogue is king of 1v1.

tournaments on twitch..?

pvp in this game is such sad dogshit right now with perma stun rogues / immortal druid / hota barbs

if blizzard paid 1% attention to pvp this thing could blow up and be the true end game.
But at this egregiously bad state of bugs/balance, which almost could not have been worse even if blizzard put effort into it being as bad as they could, it's stupid af.

you really saying theres tournaments? for what? who got the most immortal buggy click-n-hold build?

This post was edited by SpAz. on Jul 9 2023 05:29am

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Jul 9 2023 06:08am

Bruh, the game just came out. Season 1 is like a week and a half away. This game is FAR from its final form so idk why people are all bent out of shape about a few exploit/bugs/imbalances. Might take many seasons for them to correct some of this stuff, I don't blame people for bailing out before that happens but I'm willing to at least see what they do.

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