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Jul 26 2023 02:22am
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That’s what people said about D3. And about SC2. And none of the truly fundamental problems has ever been fixed. Once the game is released it’s too late. Most likely once the game designer is chosen and put into a specific corporate culture it’s too late. It’s baked into the cake. You will get small & easy fixes here and there, to alleviate some of the pain but nothing more. And an expansion to create a distraction from the central game flaws. Just enough to keep people believing things will improve (which they won’t) and nothing more. Hope dies last…


The devs already addressed pretty much every issue with D4 that me and a lot of people think are the biggest problems in their last dev talk.

Truly the #1 thing I think D4 needs is more cool content, more bosses and maybe raids would be badass. Of course that comes with time.
In the meantime you can slay demons if you want or play another game, there's no penalty for starting D4 at season 5 or 16.
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Jul 26 2023 02:32am
Why do all the Whiney wankers need to tell other ppl the game isnt fun enough for them, if you dont like it dont play it dont try to convince others that its a bad game

E: diablo 2 wasnt great at first and the way to Rome isnt build on one day also
There are 2 expensions coming our way as well so lots of time for the game to develope in a masterpiece

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Jul 26 2023 02:54am
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Why do all the Whiney wankers need to tell other ppl the game isnt fun enough for them, if you dont like it dont play it dont try to convince others that its a bad game

E: diablo 2 wasnt great at first and the way to Rome isnt build on one day also
There are 2 expensions coming our way as well so lots of time for the game to develope in a masterpiece


If you do like it stfu and play it and don't try to convince me that it's a good game. You like that?
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Jul 26 2023 02:56am
Damn Vick isn't holding back

This is amazing

This post was edited by ChocolateCoveredGummyBears on Jul 26 2023 02:57am
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The devs already addressed pretty much every issue with D4 that me and a lot of people think are the biggest problems in their last dev talk.

Truly the #1 thing I think D4 needs is more cool content, more bosses and maybe raids would be badass. Of course that comes with time.
In the meantime you can slay demons if you want or play another game, there's no penalty for starting D4 at season 5 or 16.


*Addressed all the issues the subpopulation of people who decided d4 is worth playing in the first place saw. In this case - yes, maybe…

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Jul 26 2023 06:51am
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What are you talking about?
SC, GW1, and CS are not modern games lol.
I'm sorry I didn't stick around in D2 and farm fg like a little sweatshop boy.


i never said any of those games you mentioned are modern, i was making sure you realized your opinion of d2 now means next to nothing since you never took it seriously. trust me i got my fair share of cs1.6 and starcraft 1....
youve compared d4 to d2 multiple times and now i cant help but think you have no idea what your talking about...

the fact that people stuck around to farm ft, meant there was not only incentive, but also a market... wish we could say the same about d4.

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Why do all the Whiney wankers need to tell other ppl the game isnt fun enough for them, if you dont like it dont play it dont try to convince others that its a bad game

E: diablo 2 wasnt great at first and the way to Rome isnt build on one day also
There are 2 expensions coming our way as well so lots of time for the game to develope in a masterpiece


who twisted your arm to join/participate in this thread?

lol masterpiece.... maybe finally in season16 like crossed said? haha

would you not agree that modern blizzard has a long history of disappointing everyone?

when i bought d4 i told myself id give it a year. but looks like they havent grasped what this game is missing and in more or less 11 months from now it will still not be fixed.
i honestly dont even know if they can fix it at this point.

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i never said any of those games you mentioned are modern, i was making sure you realized your opinion of d2 now means next to nothing since you never took it seriously. trust me i got my fair share of cs1.6 and starcraft 1....
youve compared d4 to d2 multiple times and now i cant help but think you have no idea what your talking about...

the fact that people stuck around to farm ft, meant there was not only incentive, but also a market... wish we could say the same about d4.


I've played more D2 than you've played D4 so I guess that means your opinion on D4 means next to nothing.

Farming fg is not a D2 feature, it's a 3rd party way to cheat the system, make the game P2W, and incentivize botting - plain and simple.
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Jul 26 2023 04:03pm
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I've played more D2 than you've played D4 so I guess that means your opinion on D4 means next to nothing.

Farming fg is not a D2 feature, it's a 3rd party way to cheat the system, make the game P2W, and incentivize botting - plain and simple.


lol, talk about missing the point....

dont worry though, you may be right, by season 16 this game may be worth playing....

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Farming fg is not a D2 feature, it's a 3rd party way to cheat the system, make the game P2W, and incentivize botting - plain and simple.




not the most appropriate meme cause its not technically related to what you said...still usable for later though ^_^


i mean...well yeah. jsp is a 3rd party way to cheat the system...but i think we shouldnt see that as something bad :blush: ! i mean, the trading system was shit, jsp just offered an advantage. i use jsp so i belong to a masterrace and im not even sorry. and jsp was indeed responsible for bots (at least back when jsp was based), but i mean, why are bots so bad? back when i played d2, everyone had bots. some people had 1, some had 100...there was no hate or envy really! we could go out, have fun, or even sleep, and when we came back, we would see a ber or jah, griffon, coa, other fun thingies...it was awesome! the bots did the dirty work and we would just enjoy the game! everyone actually loved having bots and no one saw it as a problem


SO CONSPIRACY THEORY TIME! my theory is this: bot hate is astroturfed :mellow: its just not genuine. what i believe happened is this: gaming companies these days care the most about player money/time spent; this is done by buying mtx for items, grinding for extremely rare items, or straight up paying for items. either way its all about items. and bots give you items, for free! so bots are a problem, not for the player, but for the company :mellow: gaming companies before would just ban bots, but then they invented a much better strategy: make people hate bots, while implementing "solutions" that would actually serve other purposes (non tradable uniques arent there to fight bots, but carrot on a stick item to keep the player grinding), but mask those fake solutions as being implemented to fight the "bot issue". in reality, there never was a bot issue. everyone who played d2 knows bots were a big positive for the players :blush: !

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