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#81
Jul 14 2023 09:52pm
Quote (BlakeXeal @ Jul 14 2023 11:26pm)
I think it all developed under the direction of Jay Wilson after the original team and game was scrapped. Blizzard North was fired, so there's a version of Diablo 3 that's different from the one we know. I wouldn't be surprised if they borrowed many of the ideas, but it's obvious the game engine and graphics were changed dramatically. I'll give Jay credit of at least trying something different. The most recent team didn't take any risks and just reused ideas constantly from D3.

I think the biggest mistakes they made were some of the following.

Mob level scaling with players. It's overused and unnecessary in good game design.
Itemization: legendary aspects should have just been a bigger part of the skill tree. All the imprinting makes legendaries feel like normal items, nothing special.
Too many damage multipliers and big numbers. Creates severe balancing issues and difficulty of tweaking numbers because of the cascading effect of several bucket multipliers.
Lack of monster personality and area identity. This is partially due to monster scaling, but also includes sound design and mob ai. It's also the art style. Every area looks so bland and boring. I'm not saying it has to look cartoonish like Diablo 3, but trying to create a huge open world is a bit of a double edged sword as they couldn't focus too much time on a great looking tight knit story with creative level design that screamed gothic horror. If you look at Diablo 2 you can tell how much care each area was given in the level design, and also the randomization of it that created endless gameplay. Grid design is great for randomizers but D4 seemed to completely ignore that. They were more interested in creating a static, soulless open world.



Aspects should have been the nodes on the paragon board. That way every build actually has some variety. All the stupid damage stats need to go and so does vulnerable. Laziest filler stats I've ever seen
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#82
Jul 14 2023 10:00pm
game is worse than expected.. smh
hopefully everyone has learned a valuable lesson here
DONT GIVE THOSE F*CKWITS ANY MORE MONEY
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#83
Jul 14 2023 10:21pm
Quote (mrco @ Jul 14 2023 08:21pm)
lvl 66 and raging at forums. looks like u wanna play JSP


Quote (Psycobone1 @ Jul 14 2023 08:54pm)
but he is not wrong tho. tell me what the difference between lvl 66 or 86 even 96. my main was close to 90 and i reached wt4 at lvl 60. it was the same boring routine do nm dungeon,hell tides and a joke of a world boss. the only challenge would be uber lillth at 100 and even at that she doesn't drop shit.

please tell me why at lvl 66 makes his complains raging and playing jsp.


Funny every one of you in denials that try to sperg at him for being lvl 66 and being right.
Not only have I probably been "lvl 100 bro" for longer than most of you, I've leveled so many people over the course of atleast 2-300 NM runs.

This game is in no way much different between lvls 50-66, and 66-100. It is infact void of endgame. The developers have infact brushed by this and even told people to play a different game. If you're still maxing characters and investing hours a day into this game, especially before the season, thats on you. That is Not the majority of regular people, which majority agree this game is nothing special let alone fun, or good after beating the storyline once.

This post was edited by HCtheSin on Jul 14 2023 10:38pm
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Jul 14 2023 10:54pm
Quote (Psycobone1 @ Jul 14 2023 09:54pm)
but he is not wrong tho. tell me what the difference between lvl 66 or 86 even 96. my main was close to 90 and i reached wt4 at lvl 60. it was the same boring routine do nm dungeon,hell tides and a joke of a world boss. the only challenge would be uber lillth at 100 and even at that she doesn't drop shit.

please tell me why at lvl 66 makes his complains raging and playing jsp.


The game has 1month. Ppl like to compare to d2, so lets do some thinking. D2 wasnt even that good before d2lod, and still the endgame of d2 is bullshit. 10 players go pvp nowadays, and thats it. The same player pvp base. Cant even say pvm endgame from d2 its good. I even dare to say the campaign is bad. Everyone just rush to lvl 80 when making a new character and go some baals. Great game! It was a cool game like 10 years ago? Maybe more? For today? Its just bad. Go ahead and enter hardcore and see how many games there is in a friday night. 2 games avarege. Softcore a bit more and even so there is only rooms in americas. And im telling NORTH AMERICA. Cuz the other regions are just dead. Whats the point of even doing a character in d2 to pvp if there isnt players? Ppl defend so much d2 but cant even confess its just bad nowadays. The itemization its good. I can obviously say that. But d4 just launched a month ago, they are doing some shit here and there to the game, but its launched a MONTH. It will take years to a game be a solid gg game in market. Thing get add, things change, and I do have hugh expectations to d4 cuz there is A L O T of things they could add and do to the game over the months. Ofc the endgame is a bit boring , but again a MONTH. What ppl expect? A end game like PoE today? I cant even catch PoE for so many systems the game have, and yet they were added a bit by a bit. Ppl can just keep crying at forums, its fun tho, i always laugh at some topics for real, here and blizzards official foru. So many brain dead ppl. Go play another game if u dont like it how it is now. Im sure everyone raging will eventually play again the game.
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#85
Jul 14 2023 11:06pm
Quote (VickIsSick07 @ Jul 14 2023 11:52pm)
Aspects should have been the nodes on the paragon board. That way every build actually has some variety. All the stupid damage stats need to go and so does vulnerable. Laziest filler stats I've ever seen


Yes, that also could have worked using the paragon board in a manner of extended skill tree.
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#86
Jul 14 2023 11:11pm
Quote (mrco @ Jul 14 2023 09:54pm)
Thing get add, things change, and I do have hugh expectations to d4 cuz there is A L O T of things they could add and do to the game over the months. Ofc the endgame is a bit boring , but again a MONTH. What ppl expect? A end game like PoE today? I cant even catch PoE for so many systems the game have, and yet they were added a bit by a bit.


Ya, it would take 1 billion small bits for Blizzard to make a single PoE bit.
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#87
Jul 14 2023 11:39pm
one way i put myself too sleep is just do "Tree of whispers" quest a few of those and i just wanna sleep tight.
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#88
Jul 15 2023 12:44am
Quote (Psycobone1 @ 14 Jul 2023 20:54)
but he is not wrong tho. tell me what the difference between lvl 66 or 86 even 96. my main was close to 90 and i reached wt4 at lvl 60. it was the same boring routine do nm dungeon,hell tides and a joke of a world boss. the only challenge would be uber lillth at 100 and even at that she doesn't drop shit.

please tell me why at lvl 66 makes his complains raging and playing jsp.


There feels no reason to level anymore. None of the items even remotely add any more actual damage. I've been doing the same 30% damage to monsters from level 1-66. I never felt stronger or weaker. Just the same exact thing throughout the game. the only thing items add to is the small amount of resource and channeling ability to my same 2-3 skills that are based off aspects. The skill tree sucks. I rather have synergies back and d2 skill tree. The paragon is okay but rather add to my core skills not jist +5 to wrength or dex every 1/4 of a level

The items don't even seem cool to find. Nothing is exciting to find or hunt for
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#89
Jul 15 2023 02:39am
Quote (CrueLThug @ Jul 15 2023 01:39am)
one way i put myself too sleep is just do "Tree of whispers" quest a few of those and i just wanna sleep tight.


Honestly though....playing this game for longer than 1 hour puts me to sleep.
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#90
Jul 15 2023 02:55am
Quote (zeppelin26 @ Jul 14 2023 11:44pm)
There feels no reason to level anymore. None of the items even remotely add any more actual damage. I've been doing the same 30% damage to monsters from level 1-66. I never felt stronger or weaker. Just the same exact thing throughout the game. the only thing items add to is the small amount of resource and channeling ability to my same 2-3 skills that are based off aspects. The skill tree sucks. I rather have synergies back and d2 skill tree. The paragon is okay but rather add to my core skills not jist +5 to wrength or dex every 1/4 of a level

The items don't even seem cool to find. Nothing is exciting to find or hunt for


The item findings a complete doozy. So lackluster same shit you just sell over and over. Absolutely nothing cool. Basically because scaling. I remember on d2r crafting a 45 skillet and jumping off my chair. Or when I seen griffons drop etc. Just nothing is cool or different too find now. The whole d2 series is based off that aspect tbh.

This post was edited by CrueLThug on Jul 15 2023 02:56am
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