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Aug 17 2023 09:25am
Quote (zorzin @ 17 Aug 2023 13:26)
This is a real and pressing issue for us diablo franchise enjoyers. The banning of emotes on the official blizzard discord is real and it correlates to blizzards decision to make diablo 4 an antisocial game. The blatant censorship of speech Is a major factor as to why so many users on this forum have commented that this game feels like a single player game.

Do you disagree?


yes. the game feels lonely because there are no party systems implemented not because they removed an emoji from a discord server.
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Aug 17 2023 09:50am
Quote (masl @ Aug 17 2023 11:25am)
yes. the game feels lonely because there are no party systems implemented not because they removed an emoji from a discord server.


But removing an emoji from the playerbase is just one more thing that hinders a community like atmosphere, which this game is severely lacking.

Us barn bros should be up in arms over this, blizzard should be doing more to promote a true multi-player experience (which discord plays a huge part in) as opposed to bending the knee to outside forces which don't care about the game.

This action is indicative of what the future holds for all of us unless we take a stand now!
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Aug 17 2023 10:38am
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Bro that’s not how the world works, it isn’t a two way street.

We're talking about a Mr. Potato Head style of meme. The user decorates the head to his or her desire.

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It’s not an overreach,


A reach around then?

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and if people were posting 88 or any other actual coded hate symbol, we’d all agree they’re right.


Only we wouldn't agree, because:
-It's not their place to be making rules.
-The ADL contradicts their own statements. They label 88 as a Hate symbol, yet they're currently supporting the Ukrainian troops, who are rockin tats with the same 88 symbol.
-The ADL is a racist organization, that supports the desecration of white people and children. So they have no credibility.


Quote (Jewsus @ Aug 17 2023 12:46am)

I think this is more professional hate speech detectors or whatever not seeing nuance,

Whether it's automated or manual surveillance; it's none of there business to be detecting anything in a video game chat, or in anybody's chat.
I don't play Diablo to be spied on and monitored by 3rd party creepers; trying to control the way that I think.


Quote (Jewsus @ Aug 17 2023 12:46am)

Someone at an anti hate group sees racist Pepes among rare and precious Pepes and it gets circulated as a symbol of hate because 99% of people don’t go googling cartoon frog memes when they read a headline about it while taking a dump at work.


So let me get this straight. Someone at the ADL will cherry pick Pepe memes that offend them; and according to you; 99% of people will read the propaganda headline about the Evil Pepe; while sitting on the toilet of course (since they're inferior, unclean creatures); and they will digest and adopt the carefully crafted title verbatim, without a single critical thought. Making people fully programmable and easily manipulated by the ADL through their media partners.

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and I can’t say I expect everyone to google whether Pepe is racist when the first Pepe they see is swastika Pepe right?




In a sea of wholesome Pepe memes...

How are unfamiliar people experiencing a swastika Pepe, as the first Pepe to begin with?
Oh right, the ADL will deliberately take this version of the frog, and shove it in your face, to demonize Pepe as a whole. And you assume that nearly everyone is brain dead and will just conform to the idea that Pepe is an image of sin, that he needs to be outlawed. But we're not dumb, we see right through the ADL's lies and trickery.



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Aug 17 2023 01:42pm
Quote (Kijijo @ Aug 17 2023 10:38am)
We're talking about a Mr. Potato Head style of meme. The user decorates the head to his or her desire.



A reach around then?



Only we wouldn't agree, because:
-It's not their place to be making rules.
-The ADL contradicts their own statements. They label 88 as a Hate symbol, yet they're currently supporting the Ukrainian troops, who are rockin tats with the same 88 symbol.
-The ADL is a racist organization, that supports the desecration of white people and children. So they have no credibility.



Whether it's automated or manual surveillance; it's none of there business to be detecting anything in a video game chat, or in anybody's chat.
I don't play Diablo to be spied on and monitored by 3rd party creepers; trying to control the way that I think.




So let me get this straight. Someone at the ADL will cherry pick Pepe memes that offend them; and according to you; 99% of people will read the propaganda headline about the Evil Pepe; while sitting on the toilet of course (since they're inferior, unclean creatures); and they will digest and adopt the carefully crafted title verbatim, without a single critical thought. Making people fully programmable and easily manipulated by the ADL through their media partners.



https://i.imgur.com/sgmDdNp.jpg

In a sea of wholesome Pepe memes...

How are unfamiliar people experiencing a swastika Pepe, as the first Pepe to begin with?
Oh right, the ADL will deliberately take this version of the frog, and shove it in your face, to demonize Pepe as a whole. And you assume that nearly everyone is brain dead and will just conform to the idea that Pepe is an image of sin, that he needs to be outlawed. But we're not dumb, we see right through the ADL's lies and trickery.


Bro you have a crippling lack of perspective.

You’re coming up with this two sided debate nonsense to explain to me why an organization that doesn’t care what you think is actually wrong.

My point is that this is not a truth seeking organization that’s sole purpose is to discover the intent of memes.

It’s a group that gets paid to find and publish hate symbols and the people posting it. That’s it.

What you’re doing is going to the toll operator on the highway to haggle about how much toll you owe because you hit a pothole on the way to work. You may have a point, but there’s no system in place to argue it, and the people you’re arguing against don’t care about your opinion.

You put a standard on the ADL which the ADL doesn’t claim. This isn’t a court case, it’s a press release from a PR agency, stop treating it like a Supreme Court decision and you’ll be a lot less frustrated.
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Aug 17 2023 02:35pm
Quote (Jewsus @ Aug 17 2023 03:42pm)
Bro you have a crippling lack of perspective.


And you have a warped view. You see how easy that was?

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You’re coming up with this two sided debate nonsense to explain to me why an organization that doesn’t care what you think is actually wrong.

You're throwing dry dirt on the wall hoping that it sticks. You're not slick. It's not working. I'm talking to you straight and staying on topic.

Quote (Jewsus @ Aug 17 2023 03:42pm)

My point is that this is not a truth seeking organization that’s sole purpose is to discover the intent of memes.

That's right. It's a truth denying organization, that's why they go out of their way to ban memes and silence people.

Quote (Jewsus @ Aug 17 2023 03:42pm)

It’s a group that gets paid to find and publish hate symbols and the people posting it. That’s it.

Nice try trying to minimize their true nature; and what they are capable of. They have direct partnerships and the ability to cut someones funding source off if they want to.

Quote (Jewsus @ Aug 17 2023 03:42pm)

What you’re doing is going to the toll operator on the highway to haggle about how much toll you owe because you hit a pothole on the way to work. You may have a point, but there’s no system in place to argue it, and the people you’re arguing against don’t care about your opinion.

Yes, I have a point, and it's hard for you to argue against it because I have facts that are backing me up. So you're trying to spin my words out of context.

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You put a standard on the ADL which the ADL doesn’t claim. This isn’t a court case, it’s a press release from a PR agency, stop treating it like a Supreme Court decision and you’ll be a lot less frustrated.

More dry dirt for the wall. And If you don't like my writing style that's your problem. This statement alone tells me that you're frustrated. It's not my fault that the ADL decided to get petty and go after Diablo Gamers.

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Aug 17 2023 03:03pm
Familiarize yourself with Innuendo Studios, my friend. The world will be a lot less scary.
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Quote (SoulSedition @ Aug 17 2023 05:03pm)
Familiarize yourself with Innuendo Studios, my friend. The world will be a lot less scary.


Would Ian Danskin support the banning of pepe emotes by the adl?

He seems very intuitive, especially with the alt rights playbook
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Aug 17 2023 03:43pm
why do you all care so much about an emote / meme? :lol:
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Aug 17 2023 03:45pm
Quote (Kijijo @ Aug 17 2023 02:35pm)
And you have a warped view. You see how easy that was?


You're throwing dry dirt on the wall hoping that it sticks. You're not slick. It's not working. I'm talking to you straight and staying on topic.


That's right. It's a truth denying organization, that's why they go out of their way to ban memes and silence people.


Nice try trying to minimize their true nature; and what they are capable of. They have direct partnerships and the ability to cut someones funding source off if they want to.


Yes, I have a point, and it's hard for you to argue against it because I have facts that are backing me up. So you're trying to spin my words out of context.


More dry dirt for the wall. And If you don't like my writing style that's your problem. This statement alone tells me that you're frustrated. It's not my fault that the ADL decided to get petty and go after Diablo Gamers.


No buddy, I’m trying to give you perspective that you lack as a (assuming) 16-year-old, which will save you a lot of time and frustration if you can accept it.

Things don’t have to be wrong for them to not be true- you’re fixating on right/wrong arguments instead of what did/didn’t happen, and you’ll spend the rest of your life navel-gazing if you don’t get that. Or you can try to figure out what I’m explaining, and enjoy the nirvana of infinite wisdom because everything is the only way it can actually be, and that includes the ADL misunderstanding Pepe.
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Quote (plarpp @ Aug 17 2023 11:43pm)
why do you all care so much about an emote / meme? :lol:


30 years ago gay people were like "why do you care so much if we get married? its not like we will go to schools and snatch your kids"

guess what happened. so thats why. the foot in the door tactic must not be allowed to work. the moment you see something bad, react. kill the snake while its still small :mellow:

Quote (Jewsus @ Aug 17 2023 09:42pm)
You put a standard on the ADL which the ADL doesn’t claim. This isn’t a court case, it’s a press release from a PR agency, stop treating it like a Supreme Court decision and you’ll be a lot less frustrated.


in theory yes, but in practice if the (((ADL))) tells the supreme court to wear jester hats, you can be damn sure they are going to wear jester hats :lol:

This post was edited by Snyft2 on Aug 17 2023 04:05pm
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