youre missing the point. d2 players dont want a d2 2.0 clone and d2r is exactly what it is, a remaster which is sweet for nostalgias sake, but dont assume thats all "we" want. we want a game that gives incentive, has a good grind, killer replayability like d2 did and god dam trading. no trading alone has utterly destroyed any player retention.
d2 should of been a stepping stone to develop future games from. d3 and d4 have taken so little from d2 that if they werent called diablo X we wouldnt even recognize it.

the d3 team took the franchise in a terrible direction and its looking like it will never recover. the d4 team has built much more off of d3 which was another bad decision. they learnt nothing.
they fucked up big time imo. d3 honestly should of been easy to make. i wouldnt be surprised if d4 dies sooner than d3 did.

This post was edited by C4NTWO on Jul 13 2023 08:33pm

I just heard something in the dev discussion and the quote goes like the following.

"Well the initial direction was Diablo 2."

Unfortunately they quickly shifted into Diablo 3. - Scaling, itemization (legendary aspects that act like sets), ui that matches D3/DI. Scaling in particular was a terrible decision chosen for couch coop on consoles probably. There's no sense of progression or danger when mobs scale directly with the player. In an RPG there have to be areas that feel iconic and different from each other. In a game with scaling that doesn't happen, every area feels the same.

The art style seems to be the only thing they tried to emulate from Diablo 2. Everything else is pure D3/DI. Even then Vicarious Visions did a better job on an updated art style.

This post was edited by BlakeXeal on Jul 13 2023 09:10pm

Why no boyfriend? Idc about girls. Show me some love too

Xtimus bashed Diablo 4 since day one, but he wasn't well prepared for making that review/critique of the game. A lot of his takes were bad, he was repeating himself a lot, and at the end he came across as some sort of elitist whinny D2 fanboy that presents his opinions as facts, without backing them with solid arguments. And though most Diablo 2 fans would understand his criticism, i doubt many will like the way it was delivered... at least that's how i see it, and even though i'm on his side, i still thought the video was terrible. It was just poorly constructed through and through, and when he got called for it he had to make a near 2 hour cringy response video in which he was kissing a bunch of asses... you can see him die inside a little bit during that response, there was nothing sincere about it.

This post was edited by KillingIsMyBusiness on Jul 13 2023 09:56pm

Realist. want good games? play old ones. new good games will never be a thing again by the same standard.

Yep, it's a mediocre game and a bad ARPG.

Big difference between PoE and Diablo 4? Crafting, trading, and not being limited to playing a single build. It doesn't matter if Blizzard adds more contents, those shit only last 1 week and people get bored and quit.

Weird cause I see a lot of the exact same mistakes that was in d3

well not with that attitude. there are plenty of new games that are good !

The Elden Ring games seem fairly well received, and i personally liked Hogwarts Legacy a lot, but i haven't seen a universally well received game in over 10 years. Skyrim is the last game i remember just about everyone being happy with.