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Yeah they're trying to make a great game for their target audience.

I know the J2p hivemind doesn't want to hear this but trading is kind of irrelevant there's many great games with no trading even in the ARPG and MMO genre. A lot of people preferred Diablo offline, Poe SSF and Last Epoch before it even had multiplayer for examples.


..and having a basic system where they can trade, can still be casually friendly though.

PoE SSF was only implemented because of reddit tears gaslit the devs for years back in the day, then they finally folded

SSF offers nothing of value to the genre, other than elitism and self-entitlement. In fact, it makes it worse because it fractures the playerbase

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..and having a basic system where they can trade, can still be casually friendly though.

PoE SSF was only implemented because of reddit tears gaslit the devs for years back in the day, then they finally folded

SSF offers nothing of value to the genre, other than elitism and self-entitlement. In fact, it makes it worse because it fractures the playerbase


But it really doesn't matter if the playerbase is fractured, what does that even mean in a game where 99% of players play solo.

Anyone playing SSF has no interest in trading anyway, that's sort of the point.
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But it really doesn't matter if the playerbase is fractured, what does that even mean in a game where 99% of players play solo.


D2 is an online aRPG, not some ssf bs. it's best experienced on battle.net. This entire "99% of players play solo" is baloney and what they want you to believe. It's not true

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D2 is an online aRPG, not some ssf bs. it's best experienced on battle.net. This entire "99% of players play solo" is baloney and what they want you to believe. It's not true


I've literally never seen a streamer in a party doing content not even 1 time.
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I've literally never seen a streamer in a party doing content not even 1 time.


Baloney

Like what are we arguing against? 95 year olds?
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I've literally never seen a streamer in a party doing content not even 1 time.


llama used to do public parties, then someone came in and wafflestomped him and he exploited his popularity and threatened to get the player banned.

not d2's fault someone else used their free will, and hostiled him and clobbered his char

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Anyone playing SSF has no interest in trading anyway, that's sort of the point.


Not true, most resets on D2 when I am early grinding almost everything I use is self-found, I love playing like that, people see my gear and are like damn you're rocking trash!!

lol but eventually I do upgrade but enjoy the uniqueness of finding the gear along the way, this doesn't last forever tho, I will start upgrading later on via trading

without trading I don't think I'd play Diablo 2, ofc I would have played it, but not over n over n over

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llama used to do public parties, then someone came in and wafflestomped him and he exploited his popularity and threatened to get the player banned.

not d2's fault someone else used their free will, and hostiled him and clobbered his char


I'm talking about poe, I don't watch or play D2.

I've never seen any poe streamers in a party.

I know in D2 you need to stack ppl in your server to scale the monsters up.

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I'm talking about poe, I don't watch or play D2.

I've never seen any poe streamers in a party.

I know in D2 you need to stack ppl in your server to scale the monsters up.


poe streamers don't do party play, because chris and his fellow poe devs completely gutted the party play experience. when they shaped the game from reddit tears over the years. never listen to reddit

which is ironic because their open beta trailer literally had play with your friends as a huge selling point



which to be fair, the first year or so was true. public dock runs were amazing, with loot timers, etc. but then all of that fell apart (see my first sentence)
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Not true, most resets on D2 when I am early grinding almost everything I use is self-found, I love playing like that, people see my gear and are like damn you're rocking trash!!

lol but eventually I do upgrade but enjoy the uniqueness of finding the gear along the way, this doesn't last forever tho, I will start upgrading later on via trading

without trading I don't think I'd play Diablo 2, ofc I would have played it, but not over n over n over


yep that's a good point. and poe has the "convert to trade league" button too. which undermines the entire point of ssf. but i say that only because i have a deep hatred for ssf players

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yep that's a good point. and poe has the "convert to trade league" button too. which undermines the entire point of ssf. but i say that only because i have a deep hatred for ssf players


Wtf how'd a SSF player hurt you so bad? We play in our own little world.

Poe has the migrate to standard option because they want you to buy their stashes. You need to buy premium stashes to trade.

I play SSF because I don't want to play with bots and whales, that's it. Forcefully making players play standard just sows discontent within the community. They're either going to troll or quit.
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