Im not convicing anyone, im just stating my opinion on it

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https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=99276475&f=369

Yup, thats also the problem, devs only 3 times from november 2019. talked about trading and in very short terms, we can try to conclude why. Eather they got nothing to say because trading will be almost non existent and they don't want to blow off their mask of fake talk that D4 gonna be similar to D2. And they are being silent about it before everyone use their wallets. Predatory system imo, giving baits to the communty of D2(early D3) fans.

This post was edited by Fankytore on Mar 20 2023 01:50pm

700 votes out of how many millions of players you got about 0.07% opinion assuming 1 million players which is a low estimate. Gonna have to boost those numbers a tad for any measurable statistic. I wish there was more free trade in d4, but due to bots and real money sites were not gonna get it simple as that. I'll take what I can get with trading rares and hunting for some nice uniques which are very hard to come by. I think a good way to possibly circumvent this is to make items tradable once depending on rarity.

This post was edited by Brandon9405 on Mar 20 2023 02:28pm

Did you voted?

I did vote to see the results, but sadly there isn't a third option for a more middle ground approach which is what I think is the best bet for D4.

There is no middle ground, hole point of todays disscution was that, sooner or later ends up as one or another, even if it looks that D4 have that middle ground its only on paper. Atleast thats my oppion, we will see but many things pointing in a classic bait direction.

This post was edited by Fankytore on Mar 20 2023 02:34pm

Ok, so as it currently stands unique items are account bound, but rares are trade-able and will be the most highly sought after item for late game builds by imprinting aspects on them.

I think this is a decent system all things considered so if you're making me choose a stance then I will go with what they have. I think the top creme of the crop items should be earned by playing the game.

Now trading aside itemization in D2 waayyyy better imo. That's what kept D2 alive that with pvp and JSP, alot of people argue d2 is alive today because of trading it's not.

btw there will be primal / ancestral legendaries, question is: will there be rare primal / ancestral that are not account bound? If not, that trading rare items "hype" might be limited to early game

There should be more options of earning top items, one should be trade less good items and slowly get to top item via trading, to get less good items you still need to play the game, i am for legit trading after you collected items via playing the game. On the other hand those top items could just drop vile you farming zone that you farm and even if you don't find that top item, you find lesser items that are bringing you one step closer to top item with trading, so you didnt waste time you are always making progress with open trading system, so open trading is not a bad thing and still today there is no better system of progression vile you play the game ofc. They are trying to make something new but its nkt working, i wish them luck, i would love for them to think and implement something better than classic open trading system in arpg, if they can't do it, then they are changing arpg to something else which is not my type of game as much as i woukd love it to be.