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Oct 15 2023 02:41pm
The people saying the endgame in D4 is a disappointment never played D2/D2R.

The endgame in D4 is shorter. It does not take 1,000+ hours of grinding to get to 100 and get all of the "good" items.

1-100 in D4 is about the same amount of time it takes to get to like level 88 in single player games in D2R. It doesn't take 2,500+ runs to get Jah+Ber to make enigma like D2R does. It's like 250 dungeon runs total to get 100 and you should have every "good" item by then.

It should take even less time in S2 and they added some new endgame content, which is honestly probably not enough to stop the complainers, but as it stands right now there's more to do in the D4 endgame than D2R in the endgame. It just takes less time so you get through it quickly.

This post was edited by mki on Oct 15 2023 02:41pm
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Oct 15 2023 02:58pm
Quote (mki @ Oct 15 2023 04:41pm)
The people saying the endgame in D4 is a disappointment never played D2/D2R.

The endgame in D4 is shorter. It does not take 1,000+ hours of grinding to get to 100 and get all of the "good" items.

1-100 in D4 is about the same amount of time it takes to get to like level 88 in single player games in D2R. It doesn't take 2,500+ runs to get Jah+Ber to make enigma like D2R does. It's like 250 dungeon runs total to get 100 and you should have every "good" item by then.

It should take even less time in S2 and they added some new endgame content, which is honestly probably not enough to stop the complainers, but as it stands right now there's more to do in the D4 endgame than D2R in the endgame. It just takes less time so you get through it quickly.


My favorite part about people who complain about D4 endgame (especially d2 fan boys) is they pretend like it's any different than d2... load game, kill shit, pray for good drops... repeat..
Then the argument is that the d4 pvp is bad and unbalanced....

Lmfao.. d2 pvp was decent at best and a small fraction of the gamebase actually pvp'd
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Oct 16 2023 12:21pm
Quote (zNick @ Oct 15 2023 04:58pm)
My favorite part about people who complain about D4 endgame (especially d2 fan boys) is they pretend like it's any different than d2... load game, kill shit, pray for good drops... repeat..
Then the argument is that the d4 pvp is bad and unbalanced....

Lmfao.. d2 pvp was decent at best and a small fraction of the gamebase actually pvp'd


in d2 there are areas/things people actually like replaying over and over for their item drops or highest xp to hit 99.
d4 gives you everything within the first 4-20 hours (depending on how casual you are), meaning all content is "unlocked" and easily beatable with the exception of uber lilith (+ whatever new bosses are, if they're locked or not).
all of these give, at best a lotto shot at an uber unique, or a 10% gear upgrade on a single piece, which, again, is basically meaningless.

d2 shills love their game because of the items, d4's items are near meaningless unless you're pushing to 100 or trying broken ass uber lilith

basically, d4 is a half of a game.
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Oct 16 2023 12:27pm
How do people get so godly in d4 is hard to understand.
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Oct 16 2023 12:30pm
I have 100 sorcerer that can only beat t35 dungeons and a 75 necromancer that can’t do anything.
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Oct 16 2023 12:46pm
Quote (Haoqdlam @ Oct 16 2023 02:27pm)
How do people get so godly in d4 is hard to understand.


most of the power comes from the paragon board, so fix that and you'll do what everybody else does lol
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Oct 16 2023 12:50pm
I thought unique gears is where it at?
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Oct 16 2023 02:42pm
Quote (zNick @ Oct 15 2023 04:58pm)

Then the argument is that the d4 pvp is bad and unbalanced....

Lmfao.. d2 pvp was decent at best and a small fraction of the gamebase actually pvp'd



found the guy who thought he could duel with his tals mf sorc and then rages at you and brings his entire account into a game to get leveled by a shitty smiter. Is this you bro?
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Oct 16 2023 02:56pm
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found the guy who thought he could duel with his tals mf sorc and then rages at you and brings his entire account into a game to get leveled by a shitty smiter. Is this you bro?


Hey I found 1 of the 50 people who still pvp's in d2..
Is this you bro?
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Oct 16 2023 06:08pm
Quote (zNick @ Oct 16 2023 04:56pm)
Hey I found 1 of the 50 people who still pvp's in d2..
Is this you bro?


haven't played d2 in probably 10+ years. Haven't played d2r since like season 2 or 3. Haven't played D4 since second week of season 1. So that's a negative billiam.
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