Quote (BlakeXeal @ Jul 24 2023 05:56am)

You sure he's not only playing it because it's the only release as of recently that still has viewership? Asmon is, among many things, a trend chaser. After he stopped playing WoW full time for content he started doing mostly reaction content mixed with whatever is popular at the time. I don't blame him for doing it to make money, but I also don't buy that he likes the game. I believe there's money changing hands for hidden sponsorships, even though they're supposed to divulge that information.

Quote (mooks @ Jul 24 2023 12:09pm)

End game capitalism sucks. The never ending search for more profit blows.
It’s just funny you don’t blame him for trying to make more money at the expense of his content but blame the d4 team for trying to make more money.

Quote (mooks @ Jul 24 2023 06:09pm)

End game capitalism sucks. The never ending search for more profit blows.
It’s just funny you don’t blame him for trying to make more money at the expense of his content but blame the d4 team for trying to make more money.

Quote (Snyft2 @ Jul 24 2023 09:46am)

personally i blame streamers more :mellow: they are like "hey guys, im one of you! you can trust me!", and then sell you out <_< no wonder dante put backstabbers in lower level of hell than murderers and thiefs <_<

grifters are the main reason d4 even sold this well. i mean no one gives a shit about ign rating d4 as a 9.5 or 10. but when some midwit hippie grifter like asmon or moistcritikal says its a really good game, for some reason people just ignore their own instincts and blindly do what they are told. and then those same grifters later say "oh wow turns out games shit, sry guys", and people listen AGAIN and even trust them more :mellow: ive seen the same with pro vax channels on youtube that are now anti vax, people somehow believe them more than those who were anti vax to begin with :unsure:

Quote (Cbramgar @ Jul 24 2023 07:25pm)

quote needs more smily's.

Quote (Snyft2 @ Jul 24 2023 12:46pm)

personally i blame streamers more :mellow: they are like "hey guys, im one of you! you can trust me!", and then sell you out

Quote (Snyft2 @ Jul 24 2023 08:21am)

you do realize that this is a d2 forum and many of us here actually played d2 :unsure: ? so i dont know what ur trying to pull here, we know how it was cause we were there <_< every ladder was full of people and random parties and you could have fun from beginning to end of the ladder and never be alone while doing it..and even on nl you could do that :wub:

people were playing the game, which means there obviously was an endgame. again, i was there and i know what the endgame looked like and how good it was. but for the zoomers who never had the chance to experience it, i know this might sound unbelievable, but people actually played d2 and logged in every day. no battle passes, no unique mtxs or daily events that you could miss out on, there was absolutely nothing that exploited sunken cost or fomo or any other psychological loophole, people just played for weeks and months because it was fun. and you dont do that if theres no endgame <_<

now compare that to d4 that uses every trick in the book to attract and keep people in, and still it has a bigger drop than two and a half men when they replaced charlie sheen with ((ashton kutcher))

tldr: evidence > you

Quote (Crossed @ Jul 24 2023 09:34pm)

There was and still is no real endgame in D2 and to make matters worse the journey was fast, easy, and provided no challenge or depth. That's why classic WoW and Runescape have completely destroyed D2 in longevity.

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Quote (ChocolateCoveredGummyBears @ Jul 24 2023 11:05pm)

crock of baloney

it's because wow appeals to far more players as it's an mmo and a bit more casual than the fast paced arpg genre (not saying wow can't be fast paced), but the arpg genre just isn't as big as the casual mmo playerbase

Quote (Crossed @ Jul 24 2023 11:26pm)

Doesn't have anything to do with appeal, longevity has to do with player retention.

WoW and Runescapes journey was so much better for that.

Also monetization = new weekly/monthly content.