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Nov 1 2019 05:53pm
I dont mind it looks like a reskinned d3 as long as itemization is different, no spell runes, and end game content is massivly different.

So far i saw there are still fucking treasure goblins in game and that kinda kills my hope on how different this gameplay wise will be to d3, i swear if i see a fucking grift i will rage.
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Nov 1 2019 05:56pm
There were able to successfully remastered starcraft and it looked amazing! the game play remains the same
It's safe to agree that diablo 4 is totally different game play than diablo 2
However if d2 remaster is out, diablo 4 cannot compete with it.
Video of starcraft remaster:
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Nov 1 2019 05:58pm
Quote (Whiteshadowmaster @ Nov 1 2019 04:46pm)
I was about to make another long post and complain but I had to do some more research for I post any more ignorant stuff.
The reason why d3 and d4 look and feel different than our beloved d2 is because of how they were designed
In the classic diablo, the game was design in a 2d lay out for example: (we can't really go pass certain obstacles like trees, puddles etc... because of this)
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/639306601748234241/639971659373084724/unknown.png
In modern game engine, diablo 3, theyre more specific, instead of 2d, it is now 3d. things are more specific so you can actually pass each other and other obstacles.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/639306601748234241/639971714427781141/unknown.png

Because of this, the entire game was changed. Feels different, look different. It's not blizards fault. theyre just keeping up with todays technology.
In this video, the original creator of diablo 2, says that, "...making these modern diablo3,4 look and feel like diablo 2 is impossible, due to 2d vs 3d designs. If they want to make the game look and feel like diablo 2, they would need to somehow use 3d technology and make it look like 2d. which is extremely difficult and takes a lot of time." video goes and explains further details why this task is really difficult.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fuus5PLMdIQ


yea most people dont get this that d1 and d2 are great because its pre rendered. i dont see blizzard ever doing pre rendered again. i mean obviously they kinda did like poster above me mentioned. they re rendered all the original SC model at higher resolution. but i dont see blizzard ever doing that for an original game. and for d2 they said they dont have those original models to re render

This post was edited by BlizzNorth on Nov 1 2019 06:00pm
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Nov 1 2019 06:06pm
Theres Attack/Defense/Life stats on char screen

I didnt see yet if all you have to read on item is + % of any of those and equip it without actually looking at stats, but looks grim if thats how it is
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Quote (stefan289 @ Nov 1 2019 05:06pm)
Theres Attack/Defense/Life stats on char screen

I didnt see yet if all you have to read on item is + % of any of those and equip it without actually looking at stats, but looks grim if thats how it is


$10 says its the same thing as d3's char screen. they do some calculations of resis, defense, damage reduc, etc to tell you your "defense" in one number.

it's dumbed down garbage.

would prefer knowing what each defensive stat is at a glimpse and what each stat does (defense = avoid hit, damage reduc %, ele resis %, avoid/dodge/evade, absorbs). I know you can see some of that stuff in D3, but you have to dig, and not all is shown.

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Quote (Orbit617 @ Nov 2 2019 01:10am)
$10 says its the same thing as d3's char screen. they do some calculations of resis, defense, damage reduc, etc to tell you your "defense" in one number.

it's dumbed down garbage.

would prefer knowing what each defensive stat is at a glimpse and what each stat does (defense = avoid hit, damage reduc %, ele resis %, avoid/dodge/evade, absorbs). I know you can see some of that stuff in D3, but you have to dig, and not all is shown.


i saw 1 item had stat like "reduced phys dmg taken from enemies that are not near you"

so idk how exactly would that count into this general defense stat, maybe its only armor basically? i really hope it is
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Nov 1 2019 07:44pm
"Loot drops will be individual to the character like Diablo III currently is, but if you drop an item on the ground, everyone will be able to see it."

"The developers are still early in developing trading systems, but the current philosophy is that crafting mats and consumables will always be tradeable. Powerful items will likely be bound on trade, meaning that can be traded, but only once. The most powerful items however will not be tradeable and likely stay bind on pickup. They want the primary source of items and power be from playing the game itself, so there are no current plans for auction houses, but there will be limited trading available through clan banks."

This does not sit well with me. Along with skill cooldowns, d3-style skill set and treasure goblins...

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Nov 1 2019 08:03pm
how is this 50 50 lol

obviously is d3 re skinned
all these console fanboys never had the real experience a diablo game should have

now you get a mount and your own race with a full raid group, should be called world of diablo
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Nov 1 2019 08:08pm
I don't really care much for the look or the feel of the game, the gfx are fine...the moment slower than I'd prefer but fine...but d3 was purposely a dumbed down version of d2 is really what made me disappointed...they had to dumb it down....had to make it fit on a ps4 controller...d2 players they just want to kill the same monster over and over again right? we can do that..blizzard has never been good at listening to there fan base this is just more proof.
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Nov 1 2019 08:08pm
Quote (BlizzNorth @ Nov 1 2019 04:58pm)
yea most people dont get this that d1 and d2 are great because its pre rendered. i dont see blizzard ever doing pre rendered again. i mean obviously they kinda did like poster above me mentioned. they re rendered all the original SC model at higher resolution. but i dont see blizzard ever doing that for an original game. and for d2 they said they dont have those original models to re render


Wasint it brevik that said that? You gotta remember blizzard said the exact same BS about classic warcraft for years ...and look..wow classic is out

if even a third party website has all the monster models then blizz definitely has them as well.

https://www.mobygames.com/game/diablo-ii/promo

Irrc the CD with these models was emailed by a blizz employee in 2016 or bought or something

Biggest difference tho..warcraft is alot more popular with millions of subs and diablo 2 is a hobby for nostalgic washed out 20-30 year olds

This post was edited by bioshocker on Nov 1 2019 08:16pm
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