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Oct 30 2023 03:06pm
Quote (Snyft2 @ Oct 30 2023 11:25pm)
true ^_^

and well, i did try similar games (nwn, grim dawn, poe), but none have the same pvp :( and as for dota and lol, i really dislike any game that has anything subscription based, so im not gonna bother with those :wacko:



ah yee, i forgot to mention some of those in my post...but yeah :wacko: d4 is literal shit tbh


competitive pvp and nwn, grim, poe are on opposite sides of the river :) dota and lol are free to play, there are no any subscriptions, only cosmetics. Let them chance if you wanna try something similar to diablo pvp but made good and balanced
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Oct 30 2023 04:37pm
Quote (mabp @ Oct 30 2023 10:06pm)
competitive pvp and nwn, grim, poe are on opposite sides of the river :) dota and lol are free to play, there are no any subscriptions, only cosmetics. Let them chance if you wanna try something similar to diablo pvp but made good and balanced


oookay i didnt know that :unsure: good games to try then :wub: !

although i have a feeling i wouldnt like the pvp just for the reason that you consider d2 pvp not good and balanced and it was the pinnacle of gaming to me :drool: but still, worth a try :blush: !1
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Oct 30 2023 08:40pm
They fail cause they got no passion, talent and vision. It’s made with mostly money in mind and getting good sales (they succeed big time here tbh). Intention isn’t to make a great game just to make great money.
Listing everything that’s wrong with the game would take way too much effort so I’ll give tl;dr => d4 bad
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Oct 30 2023 11:38pm
No full trading is what killed it.
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