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Aug 19 2023 01:39pm
Quote (Roneye @ Aug 18 2023 06:26pm)
Feeding the troll I guess?

the camera.
This is just an adjustment from game to game. Feels natural after a couple of hours.

the monetization
70$ for the base game is all you need.
Anything else that has been monetized is skins. The battle pass is ONLY skins.
I don't give a shit about skins.

the gameplay
This is where the game excels. It has one of the best game engines in any ARPG. It very fluid and the overall pace is good.

the bugs
Any ARPG launches with bugs, that's about it. Not sure if you played either D2, D3 or PoE at launch?
I feel like they did miss a demo test

the gold dupes
Dupes has been a part of a lot of arpg. They are actively doing something about it and banning accounts.

the terrible itemization
Here I do agree with you. There's an imbalance in drop rate and item stats. Huge minus.

v1.1.2 is a solid 6/10 for me. Game could evolve into a 9/10 just below D2R if they go in the correct direction.

How much have you played the game yourself?


If someone slaps me in the face, I get angry. And then you come and break it down saying:

Why should you get mad? The slap was very fluid and natural and when the slap launches your way it bugs you a bit like it is the case with all slaps at first but overall it was a good slap!



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Aug 19 2023 04:36pm
Quote (Roneye @ Aug 19 2023 10:41am)

Glad you liked my take on it. but again it very subjective from person to person.


It's good that you mentioned it being subjective from person to person; because I did not agree with high horse Roneye from yesterday:

Quote (Roneye @ Aug 18 2023 06:26pm)
Feeding the troll I guess?

the camera.
This is just an adjustment from game to game. Feels natural after a couple of hours.


After torturing my eyes and brain through the entire D4 beta; I can easily say that the view never felt natural and always made me feel like something was off or out of place.

Quote (Roneye @ Aug 19 2023 10:41am)

But saying this game is literally unplayable is a stretch, maybe for that specific individual person. But from my understanding most people posting very harsh critic about the game, actually do not game anything themselves.


D4 is literally unplayable for me and for a lot of other people; just on this one bullet point alone; The awful default camera view.
But that is just the tip of the Blizzard iceberg; it gets way worse when you add in all of the other negative factors.

Taking everything into account and observing the actions taken by the devs; the real stretch; is believing that this game can become a 9/10.

Quote (Roneye @ Aug 18 2023 06:26pm)


v1.1.2 is a solid 6/10 for me. Game could evolve into a 9/10 just below D2R if they go in the correct direction.


Even if, the D4 devs were somehow able to overcome the stacked odds, and climbed that steep mountain to get to that 9/10 like game. It's still below the excellence of D2:R.
So if D2R is already up at the mountain top; with it's newly polished Rocketship. Why not fuel that title instead and send it to the moon already?

Why waste time supporting a game (D4) that is of lower quality; and is far removed from the greatness that is already sitting at the top; and ready to go to the next level?


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Aug 19 2023 04:41pm
Quote (Roneye @ Aug 18 2023 07:26pm)
Feeding the troll I guess?

the camera.
This is just an adjustment from game to game. Feels natural after a couple of hours.

the monetization
70$ for the base game is all you need.
Anything else that has been monetized is skins. The battle pass is ONLY skins.
I don't give a shit about skins.

the gameplay
This is where the game excels. It has one of the best game engines in any ARPG. It very fluid and the overall pace is good.

the bugs
Any ARPG launches with bugs, that's about it. Not sure if you played either D2, D3 or PoE at launch?
I feel like they did miss a demo test

the gold dupes
Dupes has been a part of a lot of arpg. They are actively doing something about it and banning accounts.

the terrible itemization
Here I do agree with you. There's an imbalance in drop rate and item stats. Huge minus.

v1.1.2 is a solid 6/10 for me. Game could evolve into a 9/10 just below D2R if they go in the correct direction.

How much have you played the game yourself?


royene always correct.
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Aug 19 2023 04:57pm
Quote (Roneye @ Aug 18 2023 11:26pm)
Feeding the troll I guess?

the camera.
This is just an adjustment from game to game. Feels natural after a couple of hours.

the monetization
70$ for the base game is all you need.
Anything else that has been monetized is skins. The battle pass is ONLY skins.
I don't give a shit about skins.

the gameplay
This is where the game excels. It has one of the best game engines in any ARPG. It very fluid and the overall pace is good.

the bugs
Any ARPG launches with bugs, that's about it. Not sure if you played either D2, D3 or PoE at launch?
I feel like they did miss a demo test

the gold dupes
Dupes has been a part of a lot of arpg. They are actively doing something about it and banning accounts.

the terrible itemization
Here I do agree with you. There's an imbalance in drop rate and item stats. Huge minus.

v1.1.2 is a solid 6/10 for me. Game could evolve into a 9/10 just below D2R if they go in the correct direction.

How much have you played the game yourself?


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Aug 19 2023 06:20pm
It's funny, the guy that said it shouldn't be worth your time, after extensive hours playing, is being praised by people that apparently like the game. Yet I say it's a bad game, and people say NUH UH, NO I'ISN'T, FEED THE TROLL. Gtfo with that bullshit. D4 is trash.
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Aug 19 2023 06:30pm
Quote (Roneye @ 19 Aug 2023 00:26)
Feeding the troll I guess?

the camera.
This is just an adjustment from game to game. Feels natural after a couple of hours.

the monetization
70$ for the base game is all you need.
Anything else that has been monetized is skins. The battle pass is ONLY skins.
I don't give a shit about skins.

the gameplay
This is where the game excels. It has one of the best game engines in any ARPG. It very fluid and the overall pace is good.

the bugs
Any ARPG launches with bugs, that's about it. Not sure if you played either D2, D3 or PoE at launch?
I feel like they did miss a demo test

the gold dupes
Dupes has been a part of a lot of arpg. They are actively doing something about it and banning accounts.

the terrible itemization
Here I do agree with you. There's an imbalance in drop rate and item stats. Huge minus.

v1.1.2 is a solid 6/10 for me. Game could evolve into a 9/10 just below D2R if they go in the correct direction.

How much have you played the game yourself?


Well sure OP is provoking Ron but you are somehow whiteknighting a mediocre game.
Sure you like it and you playing a shitton out of it but ignoring key facts.

Camera is a 100% valid point no matter what or if you get used to. Devs already said its forced otherwise there would be performance issues.
No one even talk about a real crucial point here - lack of space. Also here Devs gave their feedback that they are incompetent.
No one even talk about lack of endgame - lack of trade and this you consider a 9/10 when they fix some stuff? :)

Including really bad itemization it never can reach more than 6/10 even if they fixed all issues.

Last but not least, everyone has different tastes. I played pre ladder and thats it.
Marked this game like D3 as a disappointment and moved on.

This post was edited by Abx on Aug 19 2023 06:32pm
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Aug 19 2023 06:34pm
Quote (Vileinfected @ Aug 20 2023 01:20am)
It's funny, the guy that said it shouldn't be worth your time, after extensive hours playing, is being praised by people that apparently like the game. Yet I say it's a bad game, and people say NUH UH, NO I'ISN'T, FEED THE TROLL. Gtfo with that bullshit. D4 is trash.


Camera - Not sure what you are on about?
Monetization - Still not sure what you are on about? Purely optional for aesthetics.
Gameplay - There is no end game objective yet. Mechanic changes are quiet wild, but not half as bad as people make it out to be.
Bugs - Yeah, some silly ones kicking about still. Sometimes I feel they spent more time on the aesthetics than they did the basic programming.
Gold Dupe - Not a clue. Not aware of it and have not used it.
Items - I don't mind it, other than there needs to be some sort of filter. The amount of junk you have to read and grind through can make it hard work. For example, a filter for a weapon with ilvl 800+ would make a world of difference.

Just out of curiosity, why do you feel the need to tell people how to spend their money? By the way, you are literally on a trading web site where you buy a fake currency with your own money.

This post was edited by SamTheGuru on Aug 19 2023 06:35pm
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Aug 19 2023 07:12pm
stockholm syndrome + sunk cost fallacy = d4 player

This post was edited by ChocolateCoveredGummyBears on Aug 19 2023 07:12pm
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Aug 19 2023 07:19pm
Quote (ChocolateCoveredGummyBears @ Aug 19 2023 09:12pm)
stockholm syndrome + sunk cost fallacy = d4 player


how did they really put out Diablo immoral and D4 as the last 2 games of the Series lol -- such trash


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Aug 19 2023 07:21pm
Quote (Blankey @ Aug 19 2023 06:19pm)
how did they really put out Diablo immoral and D4 as the last 2 games of the Series lol -- such trash


garbage in, garbage out. all stems from the top down, sadly. their programmers/tech team is more than capable to make a true successor
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