Quote (Noob_Tactics @ Jul 20 2023 01:13am)

Honestly? In 5 years people won't even remember this patch. If anything they will remember the nerfs but the game will advance so much over the life span of this game people will forget about vanilla launch builds. D2 LOD was met with similar criticism when they nerfed characters across the board but people remember it as one of the genre-defining games of a generation.

It sucks but it needed to be done to pave the way for the new developments to be made. Do you have any idea how hard it is to balance a game under such public scrutiny? If they continued the way things were, people might not even use seasonal theme features (like malignant hearts for the first obvious example).

They nerfed everything to the ground, intentionally... So they can build everything back up.

In order to pave the way for future updates, they needed everything to reset to barely anything doable so they can predict more accurately builds that they feature every season.

I personally don't care I'm just going Druid for end game content but the devs aren't these evil money grubbing villains every forum is making them out to be.

If you're developing an arc... A talent arc, build arc, the arc that exists from day 1 of new content until end of that season where new metas form... In order to CONTROL that arc, they NEEDED to nerf everything so that every build starts off garbage. You can't develop an arc without a strong foundation, and part of being game devs is to be aware of that arc so they can innovate and provide the best services the game can become.

TLDR: It's easy to criticize a company but it's infinitely harder to be in their shoes controlling an economy. You have to understand it's like legitimate politics. If you make a bill as a senator, since it's a political climate, every stance there will be opposition. As politicians you need to be aware of every action that has an opposition and try to appeal to every demographic.

With game design, every action has opposition from another group of people. They can either try to make everyone happy, and drive their gamer base away because the game is too EASY and time sink, or they can try to be responsible and set the game up for success... And drive away the fanbase.

If you're still here on forums after the nerfs, you clearly have an interest still in the game. So play it. If you don't want to play it, don't play it. Wait a few seasons for set items to release (I have no idea when they are releasing set items). If you "WASTED MONEY" on the Ultimate Edition, you have that token to apply to the season of your choice. Just save the accelerated battle pass for a season you can get excited about. Don't come on here and troll the forums eating popcorn.

Personally, I am excited to play season 1 because it's the first seasonal journey where there will be free content regardless of how much money you spent on the game. Seasonal Journeys in Diablo 3 always felt really rewarding to me so I'm excited to see what they do. I think they grant tons of aspects pending on the class you're playing.

Let's foster a positive environment for the community to engage in and limit the hostile environment tactics that people are loving. Viva Los Diablo!

Quote (Weiser @ Jul 19 2023 05:18pm)

I have no issue making the game more difficult. They just went about it poorly.

Adding time to tp, non stackable items that should be stackable, rings the same size as armor, clunky style movement, a useless horse etc are the issues I thought should of been addressed.

I'll be playing either rogue or druid just based strictly off movement

Quote (ChocolateCoveredGummyBears @ Jul 19 2023 07:01pm)

don't worry. they worked on the high priority issues, like placing your character in the loading screen now!

Quote (Noob_Tactics @ Jul 20 2023 01:13am)

Honestly? In 5 years people won't even remember this patch. If anything they will remember the nerfs but the game will advance so much over the life span of this game people will forget about vanilla launch builds. D2 LOD was met with similar criticism when they nerfed characters across the board but people remember it as one of the genre-defining games of a generation.

It sucks but it needed to be done to pave the way for the new developments to be made. Do you have any idea how hard it is to balance a game under such public scrutiny? If they continued the way things were, people might not even use seasonal theme features (like malignant hearts for the first obvious example).

They nerfed everything to the ground, intentionally... So they can build everything back up.

In order to pave the way for future updates, they needed everything to reset to barely anything doable so they can predict more accurately builds that they feature every season.

I personally don't care I'm just going Druid for end game content but the devs aren't these evil money grubbing villains every forum is making them out to be.

If you're developing an arc... A talent arc, build arc, the arc that exists from day 1 of new content until end of that season where new metas form... In order to CONTROL that arc, they NEEDED to nerf everything so that every build starts off garbage. You can't develop an arc without a strong foundation, and part of being game devs is to be aware of that arc so they can innovate and provide the best services the game can become.

TLDR: It's easy to criticize a company but it's infinitely harder to be in their shoes controlling an economy. You have to understand it's like legitimate politics. If you make a bill as a senator, since it's a political climate, every stance there will be opposition. As politicians you need to be aware of every action that has an opposition and try to appeal to every demographic.

With game design, every action has opposition from another group of people. They can either try to make everyone happy, and drive their gamer base away because the game is too EASY and time sink, or they can try to be responsible and set the game up for success... And drive away the fanbase.

If you're still here on forums after the nerfs, you clearly have an interest still in the game. So play it. If you don't want to play it, don't play it. Wait a few seasons for set items to release (I have no idea when they are releasing set items). If you "WASTED MONEY" on the Ultimate Edition, you have that token to apply to the season of your choice. Just save the accelerated battle pass for a season you can get excited about. Don't come on here and troll the forums eating popcorn.

Personally, I am excited to play season 1 because it's the first seasonal journey where there will be free content regardless of how much money you spent on the game. Seasonal Journeys in Diablo 3 always felt really rewarding to me so I'm excited to see what they do. I think they grant tons of aspects pending on the class you're playing.

Let's foster a positive environment for the community to engage in and limit the hostile environment tactics that people are loving. Viva Los Diablo!

Quote (AnthroWolphie @ Jul 19 2023 09:36pm)

Atleast for rogues it is. Can't wait to get my malignant heart and explode the screen.

Quote (Noob_Tactics @ 19 Jul 2023 19:13)