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Jul 19 2023 06:51am
Quote (Blah58 @ Jul 19 2023 04:18am)
Patch actually ruined the entire game. The D4 balance team are fucking idiots.

"In order to deal with people complaining about world scaling we will make the world stop scaling after it no longer matters" like that's the exact fucking opposite of what it should do. It should start off weak and end up stronger once you have the tools to deal with it. No one needs mlvl95 on their clvl100. It's the 15-40 range where leveling up fucks you and makes you weaker. That's the area world scaling needs to be adjusted down.

Helltide literally no longer worth it. You get 1 cinder every 3-5 packs now which is like 20-40 kills instead of 2-6 per pack with a chance at a 12ish drop. The monsters that spawn in events during helltide actually just don't drop cinders anymore? Only the chest at the end of the event, and it gives like 7? 2-4 minutes depending on the event? Like 1.5 cinders per minute? And on top of that they made the chest 250? Why the fuck would anyone do it? Oh that's right because you fucking have to if you want to craft for the chance of getting any usable gear.

Nerfing the shit out of vuln and crit is an extremely shitty way to deal with those being the most popular stats. Like how about you just buff the other stats to bring them in line with the power of the most used? And have a better stat screen so people can see how the other stats actually fucking effect their damage? And be way more open with what certain things actually mean? Like what is "close" and "distant"? Why even use those words? Why not say melee and ranged? Is a ranged unit right beside you cuz you're melee close or distant? What about the dude one step back cuz you're attacking the guy beside him? So incredibly stupid.

"We saw a lot of people using CDR, so to make it more fair for the people who didn't care about CDR we are going to make the stat completely useless now" like??!? Why punish the people who like a specific stat?

"We noticed that everyone was getting their main stat on weapons, so we decided to nerf the fuck out of those values" why even have fucking stats if you're going to get angry and punish people for fucking building around that main stat???

Maybe I would pick close/distant damage if it was actually fucking clear what that means and actually fucking clear how it adjusts my damage. But I know if I get 150 Dex on my weapon my tooltip increases by 2000 damage so clearly I'm going to pick the things that have a fucking noticable impact? Fix your goddamn idiotic stat screen.

Also have rogue specific complaints but that's not for here.

Someone copy/paste this to the d4 forum, I don't use it.


Agreed with everything here. If they stick with these changes I don’t see how the game maintains any sort of player base. Shit is not fun to play at all in its current state
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Jul 19 2023 07:27am
Quote (Blah58 @ Jul 19 2023 02:18am)
Patch actually ruined the entire game. The D4 balance team are fucking idiots.

"In order to deal with people complaining about world scaling we will make the world stop scaling after it no longer matters" like that's the exact fucking opposite of what it should do. It should start off weak and end up stronger once you have the tools to deal with it. No one needs mlvl95 on their clvl100. It's the 15-40 range where leveling up fucks you and makes you weaker. That's the area world scaling needs to be adjusted down.

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This is the change that while likely not that impactful baffles me the most. I want blizzard to make the open world more meaningful. Instead they hear people complain about level scaling and take an approach that does nothing to level scaling and just takes a nerf bat to anything that’s not helltides and Nm dungeons. Realistically most folks are only doing those activities late game anyways but the change is completely out of touch and backwards.

I’ve largely defended blizz, and I’m maybe making a mountain of a mole hill but this change is just stupid. There’s no other way to look at it.
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Jul 19 2023 08:06am
Quote (Blah58 @ Jul 19 2023 04:18am)
Patch actually ruined the entire game. The D4 balance team are fucking idiots.

"In order to deal with people complaining about world scaling we will make the world stop scaling after it no longer matters" like that's the exact fucking opposite of what it should do. It should start off weak and end up stronger once you have the tools to deal with it. No one needs mlvl95 on their clvl100. It's the 15-40 range where leveling up fucks you and makes you weaker. That's the area world scaling needs to be adjusted down.

Helltide literally no longer worth it. You get 1 cinder every 3-5 packs now which is like 20-40 kills instead of 2-6 per pack with a chance at a 12ish drop. The monsters that spawn in events during helltide actually just don't drop cinders anymore? Only the chest at the end of the event, and it gives like 7? 2-4 minutes depending on the event? Like 1.5 cinders per minute? And on top of that they made the chest 250? Why the fuck would anyone do it? Oh that's right because you fucking have to if you want to craft for the chance of getting any usable gear.

Nerfing the shit out of vuln and crit is an extremely shitty way to deal with those being the most popular stats. Like how about you just buff the other stats to bring them in line with the power of the most used? And have a better stat screen so people can see how the other stats actually fucking effect their damage? And be way more open with what certain things actually mean? Like what is "close" and "distant"? Why even use those words? Why not say melee and ranged? Is a ranged unit right beside you cuz you're melee close or distant? What about the dude one step back cuz you're attacking the guy beside him? So incredibly stupid.

"We saw a lot of people using CDR, so to make it more fair for the people who didn't care about CDR we are going to make the stat completely useless now" like??!? Why punish the people who like a specific stat?

"We noticed that everyone was getting their main stat on weapons, so we decided to nerf the fuck out of those values" why even have fucking stats if you're going to get angry and punish people for fucking building around that main stat???

Maybe I would pick close/distant damage if it was actually fucking clear what that means and actually fucking clear how it adjusts my damage. But I know if I get 150 Dex on my weapon my tooltip increases by 2000 damage so clearly I'm going to pick the things that have a fucking noticable impact? Fix your goddamn idiotic stat screen.

Also have rogue specific complaints but that's not for here.

Someone copy/paste this to the d4 forum, I don't use it.




Agreed

Still boggles my mind with Blizzard's budget that they don't even include gold find, magic find, and crafting into the game. Sure, there is 'imprinting' and shit, but there needs to be a way to make use of the gems. I put the gems I need into my character and then the rest just sit in the stash and collect. What the hell is the purpose of the gems other than putting it into gear? Why didn't they add an item like the cube to craft things? Make use of the gems somehow. And runes? So many things man, it's ridiculous.


Don't even get me started on only 4 stash tabs for 10 account wide characters

This post was edited by RuNFoRrEsT on Jul 19 2023 08:07am
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Jul 19 2023 08:33am
Quote (RuNFoRrEsT @ Jul 19 2023 04:06pm)
Agreed

Still boggles my mind with Blizzard's budget that they don't even include gold find, magic find, and crafting into the game. Sure, there is 'imprinting' and shit, but there needs to be a way to make use of the gems. I put the gems I need into my character and then the rest just sit in the stash and collect. What the hell is the purpose of the gems other than putting it into gear? Why didn't they add an item like the cube to craft things? Make use of the gems somehow. And runes? So many things man, it's ridiculous.


Don't even get me started on only 4 stash tabs for 10 account wide characters


Cuz they are fucking retarded. Its really not that hard to implement horadric cube like inn d2 (as they anyway are copying a lot from d2 - and its best theyb did so far) and let people craft, implement runes, runewords and magic find/gf. ITS NOT THAT HARD REALLY.. Im not even asking for 100% open trade system as i know $lizz is just fucktarded, but the things like cube, runes, RW's, mf/gf on items IS AGAIN NOT THAT HARD to do.
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Jul 19 2023 08:34am
^^^ agreed, the cude is iconic asf for a diablo. boggles my mind it isnt in the game.

d3's cube sucked balls.

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Jul 19 2023 08:37am
Quote (Flameyes @ Jul 19 2023 07:51am)
Agreed with everything here. If they stick with these changes I don’t see how the game maintains any sort of player base. Shit is not fun to play at all in its current state


Simple, the newbs can't read. Most people on D2Jsp are a higher level gamer than the normal people.

I play with 2 buddies and they are both excited because Druid got a buff on boulder and Necro got minion buffs. They won't figure out their chars are worse until level 40-50 then quit.
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Jul 19 2023 08:43am
We should all make a ticket for a diablo 4 refund.

Technically based off the BETA they supplied and marketed (Legal terms) that this season was a complete bait and swap of the original game's content. Thus the first season content is not what they marketed in their game and you want a refund for being tricked.


If we all do it they will cave.


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Jul 19 2023 09:32am
Quote (menschensohn @ Jul 19 2023 05:03am)
Patch notes are fine why everyone want lvl100 in 5 hours and onehitting everything KURWA :mad:


People like you are the worst kind of people and contribute absolutely nothing to the betterment of the game. Please go away.

Quote (BoomTitties @ Jul 19 2023 10:37am)
Simple, the newbs can't read. Most people on D2Jsp are a higher level gamer than the normal people.

I play with 2 buddies and they are both excited because Druid got a buff on boulder and Necro got minion buffs. They won't figure out their chars are worse until level 40-50 then quit.


Bro necro did not get minion buffs. What are you talking about. The build is still completely useless late game.

Quote (SkyNetCyberDyne @ Jul 19 2023 10:43am)
We should all make a ticket for a diablo 4 refund.

Technically based off the BETA they supplied and marketed (Legal terms) that this season was a complete bait and swap of the original game's content. Thus the first season content is not what they marketed in their game and you want a refund for being tricked.


If we all do it they will cave.


I'm down

This post was edited by Semptra on Jul 19 2023 09:36am
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Jul 19 2023 09:52am
Quote (SkyNetCyberDyne @ Jul 19 2023 07:43am)
We should all make a ticket for a diablo 4 refund.

Technically based off the BETA they supplied and marketed (Legal terms) that this season was a complete bait and swap of the original game's content. Thus the first season content is not what they marketed in their game and you want a refund for being tricked.


If we all do it they will cave.


imagine refunding a game because you didn't like the patch notes. rofl you should go speak to your district attorney and see if there's any charges you guys can file against blizz
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Jul 19 2023 09:53am
Quote (ChocolateCoveredGummyBears @ Jul 19 2023 11:52am)
imagine refunding a game because you didn't like the patch notes. rofl you should go speak to your district attorney and see if there's any charges you guys can file against blizz


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