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Jul 19 2023 05:19pm
Quote (Noob_Tactics @ Jul 19 2023 04:13pm)
Honestly? In 5 years people won't even remember this patch. If anything they will remember the nerfs but the game will advance so much over the life span of this game people will forget about vanilla launch builds. D2 LOD was met with similar criticism when they nerfed characters across the board but people remember it as one of the genre-defining games of a generation.


small correction: in 5 years no one will remember shit4. poe 2 and other arpgs will take the reign until diablo 5 gets teased and eventually comes out in nearly a decade. just to run you guys through the ringer a 2nd time

This post was edited by ChocolateCoveredGummyBears on Jul 19 2023 05:21pm
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Jul 19 2023 05:23pm
Quote (ChocolateCoveredGummyBears @ Jul 19 2023 07:19pm)
small correction: in 5 years no one will remember shit4. poe 2 and other arpgs will take the reign until diablo 5 gets teased and eventually comes out in nearly a decade. just to run you guys through the ringer a 2nd time


You're assuming they don't go bankrupt from sexual harassment lawsuits first.
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Quote (VickIsSick07 @ Jul 19 2023 04:23pm)
You're assuming they don't go bankrupt from sexual harassment lawsuits first.


they got infinite fuel and funds coming in from boomer wow subs. even more $ with the new wow classic token!
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Quote (ChocolateCoveredGummyBears @ Jul 19 2023 04:19pm)
small correction: in 5 years no one will remember shit4. poe 2 and other arpgs will take the reign until diablo 5 gets teased and eventually comes out in nearly a decade. just to run you guys through the ringer a 2nd time


Just give the game a chance. Blizzard proved they can save a game from destruction with Diablo 3. People abused RMAH in D3 and they had to nix the feature and then changed everything to smart personal loot so everybody could get legendaries without trading others. If they can save a game once, they can save a game twice. Just have faith bro
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Jul 19 2023 05:29pm
Quote (Noob_Tactics @ Jul 19 2023 04:25pm)
Just give the game a chance. Blizzard proved they can save a game from destruction with Diablo 3. People abused RMAH in D3 and they had to nix the feature and then changed everything to smart personal loot so everybody could get legendaries without trading others. If they can save a game once, they can save a game twice. Just have faith bro




there is no hope left bro
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Jul 19 2023 05:40pm
Quote (Noob_Tactics @ 19 Jul 2023 18:25)
Just give the game a chance. Blizzard proved they can save a game from destruction with Diablo 3. People abused RMAH in D3 and they had to nix the feature and then changed everything to smart personal loot so everybody could get legendaries without trading others. If they can save a game once, they can save a game twice. Just have faith bro


What a weird take. Blizz killed d3 when they removed trading and added loot 2.0
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Jul 19 2023 05:50pm
if I wanna play tomorrow for season 1. I have to pay more money?
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Jul 19 2023 05:53pm
Quote (Noob_Tactics @ Jul 20 2023 12:13am)
Honestly? In 5 years people won't even remember this patch. If anything they will remember the nerfs but the game will advance so much over the life span of this game people will forget about vanilla launch builds. D2 LOD was met with similar criticism when they nerfed characters across the board but people remember it as one of the genre-defining games of a generation.

It sucks but it needed to be done to pave the way for the new developments to be made. Do you have any idea how hard it is to balance a game under such public scrutiny? If they continued the way things were, people might not even use seasonal theme features (like malignant hearts for the first obvious example).

They nerfed everything to the ground, intentionally... So they can build everything back up.

In order to pave the way for future updates, they needed everything to reset to barely anything doable so they can predict more accurately builds that they feature every season.

I personally don't care I'm just going Druid for end game content but the devs aren't these evil money grubbing villains every forum is making them out to be.

If you're developing an arc... A talent arc, build arc, the arc that exists from day 1 of new content until end of that season where new metas form... In order to CONTROL that arc, they NEEDED to nerf everything so that every build starts off garbage. You can't develop an arc without a strong foundation, and part of being game devs is to be aware of that arc so they can innovate and provide the best services the game can become.

TLDR: It's easy to criticize a company but it's infinitely harder to be in their shoes controlling an economy. You have to understand it's like legitimate politics. If you make a bill as a senator, since it's a political climate, every stance there will be opposition. As politicians you need to be aware of every action that has an opposition and try to appeal to every demographic.

With game design, every action has opposition from another group of people. They can either try to make everyone happy, and drive their gamer base away because the game is too EASY and time sink, or they can try to be responsible and set the game up for success... And drive away the fanbase.

If you're still here on forums after the nerfs, you clearly have an interest still in the game. So play it. If you don't want to play it, don't play it. Wait a few seasons for set items to release (I have no idea when they are releasing set items). If you "WASTED MONEY" on the Ultimate Edition, you have that token to apply to the season of your choice. Just save the accelerated battle pass for a season you can get excited about. Don't come on here and troll the forums eating popcorn.

Personally, I am excited to play season 1 because it's the first seasonal journey where there will be free content regardless of how much money you spent on the game. Seasonal Journeys in Diablo 3 always felt really rewarding to me so I'm excited to see what they do. I think they grant tons of aspects pending on the class you're playing.

Let's foster a positive environment for the community to engage in and limit the hostile environment tactics that people are loving. Viva Los Diablo!


lol . they did lazy work as f.

they got a data of what ppl was using, nerf these.
Data of ppl are not uisng, buff those.

They did a monkeys balancing , quantitative pure, not qualitative.

Oh ppl are beating the game too fast?

Slow down the ppl , make the game slower through less dmg + slower cooldowns.
make leaving dungeons 3 to 5 SEC ( LOL ).

Lets make fake retention player , its such a monkeys idea.


instead they should have made meaningful balance changes, getting retention player with more rewards on completing higher NM DG ( maybe making them harder too ), better items, adding end game content.


Its just PURE POOR LAZY AS FCK WORK

This post was edited by imir4cle on Jul 19 2023 05:59pm
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Jul 19 2023 06:01pm
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if I wanna play tomorrow for season 1. I have to pay more money?


No, unless you want the seasonal cosmetic awards
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Jul 19 2023 06:03pm
sorc is still fine :wacko:
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