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Jul 14 2023 04:19pm
Quote (VickIsSick07 @ 14 Jul 2023 15:14)
That's where the lack of itemization destroys this game. Items are supposed to be the end game. Finding stuff for your next character, finding stuff to trade, ect. You can do none of those things because of the absolute moronic decision to tie level req with level found and then no trading. Once you get to100 you're just done. You can't use it to gear an alt, can't use it to mf, nothing.


this can be easily changed though, at the moment i agree with you it is a dumb way to tie items up. game has only been out for just over a month, and they have been decently good so far with fixing things and listening to the community, if they can keep following suit on that and working with us rather than against us we could end up with a fantastic game, and who knows what will happen once Microsoft gets their hands on the company lol.
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Jul 14 2023 04:23pm
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this can be easily changed though, at the moment i agree with you it is a dumb way to tie items up. game has only been out for just over a month, and they have been decently good so far with fixing things and listening to the community, if they can keep following suit on that and working with us rather than against us we could end up with a fantastic game, and who knows what will happen once Microsoft gets their hands on the company lol.


There's just too much to fix. They have to scrap the whole system and start over. Whites, blues, gems are all pointless drops, anything but ancestral yellows are pointless drops so you gather up all of those you find and then head back to town to sift thru nothing but a hodge podge of nothing but numbers. The bases mean absolutely nothing either so you have to just grab everything...... Nothing means anything except for DPS and bucket damage numbers and armor...... Casters using damn swords? Spell DPS based off of your weapon? Just flat out stupid

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There's just too much to fix. They have to scrap the whole system and start over. Whites, blues, gems are all pointless drops, anything but ancestral yellows are pointless drops so you gather up all of those you find and then head back to town to sift thru nothing but a hodge podge of nothing but numbers. The bases mean absolutely nothing either so you have to just grab everything...... Nothing means anything except for DPS and bucket damage numbers and armor...... Casters using damn swords? Spell DPS based off of your weapon? Just flat out stupid


white items being pointless have to point to the runeword system at some point they have talked about it but didn't know how to quite implement it. but yes i wish bases meant something as well. there will never be a better item design then how D2 did it.
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Jul 14 2023 04:27pm
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white items being pointless have to point to the runeword system at some point they have talked about it but didn't know how to quite implement it. but yes i wish bases meant something as well. there will never be a better item design then how D2 did it.


Poe system is better than d2... It's not a better game but the way the items and economy were designed was definitely better.

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Poe system is better than d2.


it's different but not better by any means
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it's different but not better by any means


The entire economy is an item sink. It's a genius design and definitely better than d2. Being able to practically craft an item from scratch is just so good. The economy and crafting system is another game in itself.
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The entire economy is an item sink. It's a genius design and definitely better than d2. Being able to practically craft an item from scratch is just so good. The economy and crafting system is another game in itself.


i mean they basically let you build an item in another item, so i could make a runeword in a shako or in a rare item, the economy is just a resource you find in game IE a rune in diablo, their crafting system is definitely more in depth but i also like the slot machine crafting system diablo 2 had, nothing more exciting then hitting a sick crafted item in diablo 2 2/20 fcr ammy etc. just because a game has more systems doesn't make it better, if you throw 1000 darts at a board you are bound to hit a bullseye.

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i mean they basically let you build an item in another item, so i could make a runeword in a shako or in a rare item, the economy is just a resource you find in game IE a rune in diablo, their crafting system is definitely more in depth but i also like the slot machine crafting system diablo 2 had, nothing more exciting then hitting a sick crafted item in diablo 2 2/20 fcr ammy etc. just because a game has more systems doesn't make it better, if you throw 1000 darts at a board you are bound to hit a bullseye.


Poe has that exact system as d2 also ..... Just chaos orb something. Same thing.

I liked d2 crafting but 90% of it was useless stuff that no one ever used.

This post was edited by VickIsSick07 on Jul 14 2023 04:42pm
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Jul 14 2023 04:46pm
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Poe has that exact system as d2 also ..... Just chaos orb something. Same thing.

I liked d2 crafting but 90% of it was useless stuff that no one ever used.


i think poe's crafting is superior however right now it's overly complex to the point where i'd be happy to just go back to the d2 basics of crafting.. nowadays, you need a damn P.h.D in Craftology on poe

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Poe has that exact system as d2 also ..... Just chaos orb something. Same thing.


is the only way to get a certain item in the game is to chaos orb it? to be fair i think the story is trash in poe it takes forever so i only played 1 season 35 hours in found a Headhunter (insane i have been told) and was done after about 70 hours the headhunter made the game fun again for a small period of time. They got to use all of diablo 2 ideas to make a better game and fell short imo, to play the game i shouldn't need 2-4 different programs and no sane person plays PoE free to play so thats not even on the table. Both games definitely have their pros and cons though, but by no means does PoE blow Diablo out of the water.
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