I honestly don't even feel like turning the game on here they're so absolutely clueless I'd be in shock if I didn't already know the dev team is incompetent. They did exactly the opposite of what they should have done. Crits and vulnerable were what made some builds viable, now an entire class is totally useless and all the others are weak af. The top tier players can adjust but still won't be able to do what they used to do. But the casuals are totally screwed.

Where you get that with the caps 7%?

They overall just nerfed it by 30%

"Total Armor: Reduced by ~30%."

Edit: Ah i get it, you mean upgraded as stats on an item with 7%.

This post was edited by Abx on Jul 18 2023 04:38pm

your feeble attempt to still make an argument here is hilarious. you keep equating a defensive skill to a build. arc lash doesn't play the same as ice shards or blizzard. firewall plays completely different than either of those. a build is more than one crowd control skill that is universally used because it is one of the few strong points of the class. i am done wasting my time here officially. you have failed to make your point, and I have consistently dismantled your arguments. have a nice day.

What u going first now tom? U said druid but still druid after all this nerfs?

why havent you yet shown me a sorc build that doesnt use frost nova?

did you get a dictionary to look up the word diversity yet?

youve dismantled nothing. all you did was cry to a moderator. every sorc build uses frost nova, just stop trying to deny it, lol

This post was edited by C4NTWO on Jul 18 2023 04:47pm

How will this affect anyone who doesn't have a high level char?

Lucky boost on barrier unlocked for all classes
Barrier generation unlocked on all classes
No reason to keep my lvl 25 sorc to roll lucky barrier boost now!

Tldr: 2 or 3 people epeen measuring

Vulnerable nerf brought spear dmg down a third
Hota Barb hurt a little bit but will survive maybe?
250 cost mystery chests! I think people will be more strategic on event stacking, maybe even bump elbows and possibly make friends *gasp*
You devious blizzard you... people will have to leapfrog vulnproc (yes its now a word) to efficiently clear stuff

Exactly, just tried some nm dungs with my almost 100% bis tb rogue.
Yesterday i was making t80+ dungs with my alt standing at enterance and wasn't bad.
After patch i was struggling with t7x solo bcs of ranged mobs and lack of deff (can't stack more def in this build mby few % of ip on armor pieces)

read back to the original post, i never said sorc builds don't use frost nova. you're the one who is equating every build TO frost nova. just as every other class in the game has some way to apply vulnerable and/or crowd control. there absolutely is diversity within the sorc class. i mained a sorc to 100, and i've tried the three main builds, as well as a few variants. no two builds felt or played the same aside from iceshard and blizzard. you are simply incorrect. and you keep trying to get a last word or something, go ahead and post again. i won't be responding to you anymore. you have failed miserably here to make a point.

the 3 builds you played, did they all use frost nova?

its a yes or no question...

you choosing not to answer my simple yes or no question is everything i need to prove my point.


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well, i guess we know atleast one of your builds used it haha. at this point the only thing youre missing is the definition of the word diversity. you may want to look that up.

This post was edited by C4NTWO on Jul 18 2023 05:16pm