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Jul 18 2023 02:48pm
Quote (VickIsSick07 @ Jul 18 2023 01:42pm)
Potentially... But it should also potentially make more builds viable too.

People just mad they can't carbon copy their build to new season and might have to wait for streamers to tell them what's good again


Dude

if you think these patch notes show a good balance for the game...lol


There's nothing wrong with nerfs and balancing, but they didn't really balance anything. They are adjusting the numbers and making changes using blind dart throwing.

There are builds in this game that arent realistically viable, they didnt fix that.



If you think these changes are good please specify clearly what this patch balanced for the betterment of the game?
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Jul 18 2023 02:49pm
Quote (Abx @ Jul 18 2023 04:44pm)
Oh that guy 1 page before have a really good point - he mentioned the cool down reduction nerf makes several builds unplayable.
Also Bear Rage from Druid is nerfed from 20 secs to 6 secs unstoppable which makes builds like Lightning Storm hella unattractive. Nado WW needs to be tested but doesnt look like its a no brainer anymore. Sure Nado was strong and you could easily clear fast and efficient high NM dungeons but now it looks different.

Bonespear from Necro was nerfed - it was the only skill viable.

Barbs suffering from the CDR nerf too because their shouts were super important. I cant tell you how it is after that nerf. I just had a Druid and a Rogue on LvL100.


Your problem is that you're comparing these builds to the game as it is now and not how it's about to be. Every single build is going to suffer from the same thing. Are you saying that nothing will be playable?
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Jul 18 2023 02:51pm
Quote (Acuity @ Jul 18 2023 04:48pm)
Dude

if you think these patch notes show a good balance for the game...lol


There's nothing wrong with nerfs and balancing, but they didn't really balance anything. They are adjusting the numbers and making changes using blind dart throwing.

There are builds in this game that arent realistically viable, they didnt fix that.



If you think these changes are good please specify clearly what this patch balanced for the betterment of the game?


How do you know they changed nothing? I've seen the result of jsp theory crafting too many times to count that y'all don't really know shit when making these predictions. Nec, according to jsp, was supposed to be trash tier during beta. Great prediction there.
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Jul 18 2023 02:52pm
Quote (VickIsSick07 @ Jul 18 2023 01:51pm)
How do you know they changed nothing? I've seen the result of jsp theory crafting too many times to count that y'all don't really know shit when making these predictions. Nec, according to jsp, was supposed to be trash tier during beta. Great prediction there.



Jsp knows better than the devs. We should be the devs!
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Jul 18 2023 02:52pm
Quote (Acuity @ Jul 18 2023 04:48pm)
Dude

if you think these patch notes show a good balance for the game...lol


There's nothing wrong with nerfs and balancing, but they didn't really balance anything. They are adjusting the numbers and making changes using blind dart throwing.

There are builds in this game that arent realistically viable, they didnt fix that.



If you think these changes are good please specify clearly what this patch balanced for the betterment of the game?


Why don't you give it a try on July 20th. If you like it then play if you don't just walk away. There isn't a definited answer to your question as each person is different in their taste... "i love chicken noodles soup!! :thumbsup:
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Your problem is that you're comparing these builds to the game as it is now and not how it's about to be. Every single build is going to suffer from the same thing. Are you saying that nothing will be playable?


The itemization and overall skills available to use in this game isn't very large.



They shouldn't be struggling to the extent they currently are.


Every skill in this game should be balanced perfectly at this point.

If they add new items that change how a skill works it makes sense to to adjustments, but thats not really whats going on right now.


As I said they're throwing darts blindfolded to try and fix this game.


Quote (boyg @ Jul 18 2023 01:52pm)
Why don't you give it a try on July 20th. If you like it then play if you don't just walk away. There isn't a definited answer to your question as each person is different in their taste... "i love chicken noodles soup!! :thumbsup:



What does that have to do with anything I said?

This post was edited by Acuity on Jul 18 2023 02:53pm
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Jul 18 2023 02:52pm
Quote (VickIsSick07 @ 18 Jul 2023 22:49)
Your problem is that you're comparing these builds to the game as it is now and not how it's about to be. Every single build is going to suffer from the same thing. Are you saying that nothing will be playable?


Ive edited last my post to add some more content to.

You are right, there will be new ways to play that game, there will be new builds. There will be new exploit builds.
But i dont need to be okay how they implemented it.
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Jul 18 2023 02:53pm
Quote (Acuity @ Jul 18 2023 01:48pm)
Dude

if you think these patch notes show a good balance for the game...lol


There's nothing wrong with nerfs and balancing, but they didn't really balance anything. They are adjusting the numbers and making changes using blind dart throwing.

There are builds in this game that arent realistically viable, they didnt fix that.



If you think these changes are good please specify clearly what this patch balanced for the betterment of the game?


Yeah they didn't balance shit. They just nerfed everything across the board. The best builds are still the best builds (sans HOTA)
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Jul 18 2023 02:53pm
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The itemization and overall skills available to use in this game isn't very large.



They shouldn't be struggling to the extent they currently are.


Every skill in this game should be balanced perfectly at this point.

If they add new items that change how a skill works it makes sense to to adjustments, but thats not really whats going on right now.


As I said they're throwing darts blindfolded to try and fix this game.


No arpg has been perfectly balanced, ever. Stupid statement.
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Jul 18 2023 02:55pm
Quote (VickIsSick07 @ Jul 18 2023 01:53pm)
No arpg has been perfectly balanced, ever. Stupid statement.


So what did this patch change specifically that makes it an improvement over the current iteration of the game in regards to builds and they're balancing and diversity.

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