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Sep 7 2023 10:00am
Quote (BlakeXeal @ Sep 7 2023 11:03am)
Whales essentially ruin any voting a normal person can do with their money on a game. All it takes is one whale to replace hundreds, or even thousands of players potentially, depending on the monetization options a game has. This is why games will just have to be straight up boycotted in the future. Don't give them an inch. Boycott as soon as the information leaks about monetization structure being predatory, and the game itself being shit.

One thing whales don't like is when the game has no population. If they can't show off all their gear they are much less likely to purchase extravagantly on a game. D4 is on track to have no in game population due to word getting around, as well as the product speaking for itself and having almost no replayability. It's what the game deserves when the devs had almost no experience and they just copy work from the most recent iteration.

Games are becoming increasingly predatory adding more and more monetization. Battle passes are renamed to things like hero's pass (runescape) in order to try to change the opinions of players on something that is known to be garbage. Let's start using early access to our advantage so we can judge a game, then make a decision. I used to hate the idea of early access charging extra, but now I realize it's an opportunity to gauge a game's true value before wasting money. It's a double edged sword for developers because while they are charging early access creating two tiers of gamers, the haves and have nots, they are also giving a free sneak preview to anyone watching streams for extra intel.


I agree with all your points. For early access though I’d say yes to free or low cost early access (really beta testing) and NO to 3-days early play “digital deluxe” version.

And look if a $25 recolored skin on a char you can barely see in a game that is fundamentally flawed in basic RPG concepts makes you happy, keep buying. Just know that from my perspective you look like a victim, and I hope as a fellow game lover that you won’t help the industry keep this crap in the business meta.
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Sep 7 2023 12:15pm
Quote (BlakeXeal @ Sep 7 2023 08:03am)
Whales essentially ruin any voting a normal person can do with their money on a game. All it takes is one whale to replace hundreds, or even thousands of players potentially, depending on the monetization options a game has. This is why games will just have to be straight up boycotted in the future. Don't give them an inch. Boycott as soon as the information leaks about monetization structure being predatory, and the game itself being shit.

One thing whales don't like is when the game has no population. If they can't show off all their gear they are much less likely to purchase extravagantly on a game. D4 is on track to have no in game population due to word getting around, as well as the product speaking for itself and having almost no replayability. It's what the game deserves when the devs had almost no experience and they just copy work from the most recent iteration.

Games are becoming increasingly predatory adding more and more monetization. Battle passes are renamed to things like hero's pass (runescape) in order to try to change the opinions of players on something that is known to be garbage. Let's start using early access to our advantage so we can judge a game, then make a decision. I used to hate the idea of early access charging extra, but now I realize it's an opportunity to gauge a game's true value before wasting money. It's a double edged sword for developers because while they are charging early access creating two tiers of gamers, the haves and have nots, they are also giving a free sneak preview to anyone watching streams for extra intel.


We did use early access and made a decision that this game was trash lol. This post was made before the actual release. After d1 and d2 I’m pissed that this franchise has been driven into the ground
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We did use early access and made a decision that this game was trash lol. This post was made before the actual release. After d1 and d2 I’m pissed that this franchise has been driven into the ground



100% bro people that drink tap water only playing d4 now smh
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We did use early access and made a decision that this game was trash lol. This post was made before the actual release. After d1 and d2 I’m pissed that this franchise has been driven into the ground



100% bro people that drink tap water only playing d4 now smh
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Sep 7 2023 09:49pm
Quote (robbhc @ 7 May 2023 03:54)
Change my mind


Will not even try B)
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Sep 8 2023 10:36pm
Is this not sticky yet?
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Sep 9 2023 08:44am
Quote (robbhc @ Sep 8 2023 09:36pm)
Is this not sticky yet?


only threads that get stickied in the d4 forum is when there's a PSA your nvidia gpu is about to become a ocean gate titan :rofl:
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only threads that get stickied in the d4 forum is when there's a PSA your nvidia gpu is about to become a ocean gate titan :rofl:


Same difference
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Sep 14 2023 04:01pm
game died faster than trying liposuction on a jay wilson chin
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