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wtf did you do, another 10% lol

i saw one thread a bunch of posts got nuked in a row

edit: got the insight scoop from zorzin lol

This post was edited by ChocolateCoveredGummyBears on Sep 7 2023 05:41am
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It seems the hype train is fading barn bros...
Not like this
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D4 on twitch: 717 viewers


:rofl:

everything is aging like wine

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everything is aging like wine


Well, some battle passes are pay to work (not even win) so who wants to pay to do work in game when they can get paid for real work instead? Who knew that artificially increasing time grinding would lead to player exodus? Example below. :rofl:

These games can't help but proverbially shoot their own feet. The greed of trying to shoehorn a battle pass into every game is destroying the industry. Maybe they can pretend like it's something else by calling it a Hero Pass now. To make you feel like a champion of the nerds with nothing going on in life. Only a hero can buy one right?



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Agree with it feeling like work in D4. ARPGs really need a good loot system like what D2 had going for it after a few years. Literally everything that dropped has straight up value or something niche.

In D4 looting is tedious and disengaging.

However - blizzard will NOT fix it! Here’s why:

In a business sense, you would need a larger investment of resources to get from a minimum viable product(mvp) to a higher quality product. If you are still able to sell the mvp to your market, you can calculate the cost of whether it’s worthwhile to invest in that higher quality, knowing that there are diminishing returns on your investment.

Blizz has calculated that ppl will still buy the game even if it’s duct taped together and barely functioning. They put the remaining investment of resources and labor towards the higher profit opportunity in selling cosmetics to the whale buyers.

This is all straight up logic. If you don’t like it don’t play the game, and speak with your money.
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Agree with it feeling like work in D4. ARPGs really need a good loot system like what D2 had going for it after a few years. Literally everything that dropped has straight up value or something niche.

In D4 looting is tedious and disengaging.

However - blizzard will NOT fix it! Here’s why:

In a business sense, you would need a larger investment of resources to get from a minimum viable product(mvp) to a higher quality product. If you are still able to sell the mvp to your market, you can calculate the cost of whether it’s worthwhile to invest in that higher quality, knowing that there are diminishing returns on your investment.

Blizz has calculated that ppl will still buy the game even if it’s duct taped together and barely functioning. They put the remaining investment of resources and labor towards the higher profit opportunity in selling cosmetics to the whale buyers.

This is all straight up logic. If you don’t like it don’t play the game, and speak with your money.


Whales essentially ruin any voting a normal person can do with their money on a game. All it takes is one whale to replace hundreds, or even thousands of players potentially, depending on the monetization options a game has. This is why games will just have to be straight up boycotted in the future. Don't give them an inch. Boycott as soon as the information leaks about monetization structure being predatory, and the game itself being shit.

One thing whales don't like is when the game has no population. If they can't show off all their gear they are much less likely to purchase extravagantly on a game. D4 is on track to have no in game population due to word getting around, as well as the product speaking for itself and having almost no replayability. It's what the game deserves when the devs had almost no experience and they just copy work from the most recent iteration.

Games are becoming increasingly predatory adding more and more monetization. Battle passes are renamed to things like hero's pass (runescape) in order to try to change the opinions of players on something that is known to be garbage. Let's start using early access to our advantage so we can judge a game, then make a decision. I used to hate the idea of early access charging extra, but now I realize it's an opportunity to gauge a game's true value before wasting money. It's a double edged sword for developers because while they are charging early access creating two tiers of gamers, the haves and have nots, they are also giving a free sneak preview to anyone watching streams for extra intel.

This post was edited by BlakeXeal on Sep 7 2023 09:14am
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