not trying to ruin your fun or bum you out. Poe seems complex and difficult to noobs but the illusion quickly fades once you realize at its core its the same as d3/d4. All the different kinds of modifiers aren't really adding anything when at the end of the day +nature dmg is the same as poes (+aoe+ele+fire+spell) combinations. 99% of players don't make their own builds they copypaste someone else's so even if the tree was complex (which its not it just looks like it because of useless stat nodes) it never impacts your enjoyment of the game.

what poe has going for it that you would enjoy as a fresh player is the different ways to farm via old league mechanics. Delve is fantastic, heist is a blast, delirium is probably the pinnacle of all ARPG mechanics. These will last you a while but the devs nerf their drops to funnel you into "their" modes of play. They slow you down with roots/snares/slows. They stop your damage with roleplay boss phases. They balance around oneshots to the point you either instaphase the boss or you cheese it with expensive godmode builds.

should you play poe if you like arpgs and never have before? yeah. But your complaint of one shots and the game being too easy just annoying is gonna be waiting for you once the "new game" aura fades.

been playing poe since 2013, sounds like you have as well, lol

D4 is incredibly simple. Only thing you need to know, is how certain skills use dmg buckets. Literally that's it, you can try out different skills and builds and quickly find they are trash. Does POE ateast have different ways, same class can fight? Like can yiu build th3 characters you want and do end game or is it the same, each class has a build or 2 and you just copy and spam?

yup. back then I thought the games future was racing, asynchronous trading, and hardcore leagues filtering into softcore on death.

Now racing is dead, trading has been abandoned as a feature to push ssf, and hardcore playerbase went from being the majority to less than 1%.

its the same as d4, they choose what skills will be "meta" and you pretty much play those or slog through content and hit like a wet noodle. The dmg buckets you're talking about exist in poe as well, there are just more of them inside of a larger bucket. But other than the guy who made your POB tree choosing which buckets you're abusing the actual gameplay is the same (except d4 is much smoother).

Poe used to shake up the meta frequently so every league was worth playing but now they don't even do balancing because 95% of their dev team are working on poe2. You'll be playing the same boring build of the archtype you prefer for a year or two before something else comes along.

Melee doesn't exist btw don't start if you enjoy melee in arpgs.

I hope d4 will continue to beat Mario sunshine!

We are so back barn bros!

super mario sunshine.. omg good times

This post was edited by ChocolateCoveredGummyBears on Aug 27 2023 08:03pm

Agreed, but for an adult with a full time job and only an hour or two per week to play? After the week they take off for Ladder reset, if RNG Jesus didn’t bless them with any drops worth using/trading - that $5 option is a whoooole lot better. Probably more common than we know but it’s so shunned upon that people won’t fess up to it.

I mean, never done it myself but I also give RNG Jesus weed with the BJs.

If you got a few hrs to play games a week, I'd suggest playing a different game tbh. Different type of game.

Sometimes I play troll the trolls on the D4 Discussion forums, it's not bad but outside of #2 time it usually just makes me feel dirty.

Havent really found any other games I like, let alone that'll keep my attention for over 20 years. But suppose I am open to suggestions.