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Aug 6 2023 07:14am
Quote (Vastet @ Aug 6 2023 05:42am)
Assuming the premise is true, it may be deliberate due to Activision trying to keep the deal with Microsoft at the expense of a Blizzard release. But considering how incompetent much of the design is I don't actually believe they could pull this off deliberately. There is an end game, they just didn't have a clue how to make it worth sinking hundreds of hours into for the masses. They've been caught completely flat footed so many times with overpowered and underpowered elements I wouldn't be remotely surprised that there was a bet in house that noone could beat uber Lilith until s1 and the entire team lost the bet when it was still months from release. And then it happened again and again. A river of tears from young devs working on their first game ever.


If so, did they fail to notice that:

- all legendary/unique itemization was based on D3's legendary power or aspects
- items were too small and item pictures too cartoonish/childish without visual appeal
- the play view angle was too steep and hurt the eye after a while
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- that trading, services, auction house and any other enjoyable Diablo activity was disabled or made unavailable for play?
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Aug 6 2023 07:18am
Quote (KDACardano @ 6 Aug 2023 09:14)
If so, did they fail to notice that:

- all legendary/unique itemization was based on D3's legendary power or aspects
- items were too small and item pictures too cartoonish/childish without visual appeal
- the play view angle was too steep and hurt the eye after a while
.
.
.
- that trading, services, auction house and any other enjoyable Diablo activity was disabled or made unavailable for play?


I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. A lot of that doesn't even make sense I never heard of anyone having their eyes hurt from playing any Diablo.
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Aug 6 2023 07:31am
Quote (Vastet @ Aug 6 2023 09:18am)
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. A lot of that doesn't even make sense I never heard of anyone having their eyes hurt from playing any Diablo.




It's obvious.
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Aug 6 2023 07:32am
No it isn't. My eyes are fine either way. I never heard anyone complain about their eyes.
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Aug 6 2023 07:36am
considering its one of the most important aspects to an RPG, both endgame and itemization, and both fail miserably, it has to be deliberate. How can you make a game without anything meaningfuil to do in the endgame and call it unintentional
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Aug 6 2023 08:04am
I think this game had a few iterations and was given a launch window after wasting massive amounts of development time. That executive decision along with too chefs in the kitchen led to the junk we have now. Also the chefs are inexperienced in the genre and have no clue what works. They could have dragged a long time Diablo gamer off the street to head the project and it probably would have turned out better. The people in charge had no vision so it was basically the blind leading the blind. The game itselt just borrows ideas from the most recent diablo titles without knowing what features make an arpg great.

This game honestly reminds me of the 2016 berserk adaptation. The team had no prior experience with 3d animation and one of the greatest manga ever turned out to be a shit show of an anime due to inexperience.

This post was edited by BlakeXeal on Aug 6 2023 08:12am
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Quote (Vastet @ Aug 6 2023 09:32am)
No it isn't. My eyes are fine either way. I never heard anyone complain about their eyes.


Fair point.
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Aug 6 2023 10:09am
I sure hope its unintentional and they're not seriously this incompetent

There is nothing fun about this game, feels worse than playing a mobile game at least with that I know what to expect
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Aug 6 2023 11:11am
Both

Deliberate in the sense that they invest less money and less effort to make a greater return on investment

Unintentional in the sense that it was a consequence of strategic marketing. Blizzard wanted to release the game before it was ready so that players would be willing to purchase it before another major release happens this fall. All major releases happen in the fall because it makes a good Christmas gift.

This post was edited by NoCap on Aug 6 2023 11:12am
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Aug 6 2023 11:16am
Quote (KDACardano @ Aug 6 2023 09:14am)
If so, did they fail to notice that:

- all legendary/unique itemization was based on D3's legendary power or aspects
- items were too small and item pictures too cartoonish/childish without visual appeal
- the play view angle was too steep and hurt the eye after a while
.
.
.
- that trading, services, auction house and any other enjoyable Diablo activity was disabled or made unavailable for play?


Yea they ripped an already bad game and made it less rewarding. D3 was fun because you were constantly make progress but then it’s over. Instead of fixing that abrupt ending with say balanced pvp or some original adaptation, D4 just copy and pasted what they had and also lengthen that experience by nerfing player power lmao what a joke

You have people that seriously lack the depth to create a balanced game because it’s the tik tok generation making these games now with their short attention spans and not the D2 era Lore inspired devs

This post was edited by NoCap on Aug 6 2023 11:37am
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