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May 15 2023 10:31am
Quote (Brandon9405 @ May 15 2023 07:26am)
baseless trash arguments. 90% of what you said was either wrong or outrage.


Diablo 4 does not do RNG, it's class specific smart loot, a less unique experience combined with lack of trading creates less freedom, less unique, and boring gameplay. ( If you say Diablo 4 is RNG you are wrong )

Does Diablo 4 have 8x player co-op?

If you weren't living on the moon for greater than the past 2x decades you'd see back in 1997 4x Multiplayer co-op was available, nice..

Explain how Early Access, Battle Passes, Microtransactions, and Collector's edition without the game are benefiting Diablo players? Is this useless outrage or blatant cash grabs?

Diablo 4 open world is 10x more restricted than Diablo 2 level layouts you forced into a path to follow, where as D2 had barriers on the outskirts of the maps








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May 15 2023 11:02am
Top reason is items.
Trading and collecting godly items.
Gameplay is repetitive so I don’t farm much but it’s fun once I a while.
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May 15 2023 11:18am
Quote (Apovax @ 15 May 2023 04:38)
No mate. Just because we are in our mid 30s or 40s and our brain is to tired to accept new things ot doesn t mean that new games are bad. Because they are not. If you d be now 10 years old you'd be frothing at the mouth just waiting to get these new games and play the shit out of them. SP or MP. There are many good games out there. We just (thankfully) outgrew the kid s mentality we used to have .. we focus on other shit but still relive with nostalgia those sweet moments as children when we first discovered those sweet games and universes where we d make our best friends fornlife and so on. Same as the kids nowadays do.


pretty much this

so eot at this point topic can be closed thank u
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May 15 2023 01:47pm
Quote (WhiskeyRunz @ May 15 2023 12:31pm)
Diablo 4 does not do RNG, it's class specific smart loot, a less unique experience combined with lack of trading creates less freedom, less unique, and boring gameplay. ( If you say Diablo 4 is RNG you are wrong )

Does Diablo 4 have 8x player co-op?

If you weren't living on the moon for greater than the past 2x decades you'd see back in 1997 4x Multiplayer co-op was available, nice..

Explain how Early Access, Battle Passes, Microtransactions, and Collector's edition without the game are benefiting Diablo players? Is this useless outrage or blatant cash grabs?

Diablo 4 open world is 10x more restricted than Diablo 2 level layouts you forced into a path to follow, where as D2 had barriers on the outskirts of the maps


Again, class specific smart loot does not mean there isn't RNG it does have random number generators. It works different than D2, but I already said I do think D2 did loot better. You might find a godly rare item in D4 with perfect rolled stats that someone can then reroll one mod on it and imprint a legendary onto said item.

They didn't do 4 player multi co-op because they were unable to do 8 players. It's just that 8 players all jammed into dungeon corridors moving around each other feels like shit. Too much screen clutter isn't fun and even with 4 players there is enough going on in D4. It's not a indication of a limitation it's what feels better.

Early battle pass, not a fan of it. Microtransactions and battle pass are par for the course now again, not a fan... However, it is a live service game promised to have massive updates. You don't get a live service without some form of monetization. They could raise the price of collectors to $166 would you buy it then? Thats how much it cost for the game + the package sold they simply took out the game since it's multiplatform sale. I personally love physical editions, but were way far into the digital age now.

Diablo 4 open world is 100x bigger and more interesting than Diablo 2's 4 layouts will ever be man COPE HARDER.

This post was edited by Brandon9405 on May 15 2023 02:07pm
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Quote (Brandon9405 @ May 15 2023 09:47pm)
Again, class specific smart loot does not mean there isn't RNG it does have random number generators. It works different than D2, but I already said I do think D2 did loot better. You might find a godly rare item in D4 with perfect rolled stats that someone can then reroll one mod on it and imprint a legendary onto said item.

They didn't do 4 player multi co-op because they were unable to do 8 players. It's just that 8 players all jammed into dungeon corridors moving around each other feels like shit. Too much screen clutter isn't fun and even with 4 players there is enough going on in D4. It's not a indication of a limitation it's what feels better.

Early battle pass, not a fan of it. Microtransactions and battle pass are par for the course now again, not a fan... However, it is a live service games promised ot have massive updates. You don't get a live service without some form of monetization. They could raise the price of collectors to $166 would you buy it then? Thats how much it cost for the game + the package sold they simply took out the game since it's multiplatform sale. I personally love physical editions, but were way far into the digital age now.

Diablo 4 open world is 100x bigger and more interesting than Diablo 2's 4 layouts will ever be man COPE HARDER.


Agree with everything you said
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May 15 2023 05:04pm
Quote (WhiskeyRunz @ May 15 2023 09:31am)
Diablo 4 does not do RNG, it's class specific smart loot, a less unique experience combined with lack of trading creates less freedom, less unique, and boring gameplay. ( If you say Diablo 4 is RNG you are wrong )


A real lack of understanding on what smart loot is.
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May 15 2023 06:47pm
Quote (Brandon9405 @ May 15 2023 03:47pm)
They didn't do 4 player multi co-op because they were unable to do 8 players. It's just that 8 players all jammed into dungeon corridors moving around each other feels like shit. Too much screen clutter isn't fun and even with 4 players there is enough going on in D4. It's not a indication of a limitation it's what feels better.


This has to be one of the worst takes I've seen yet..

Smh, don't believe your eyes folks, it's not what it seems... Yes, it is a limitation, this is not up for debate, it's a fact, either accept it or don't, won't change the reality of the game-play being limited to 4x player co-op.


Quote (Brandon9405 @ May 15 2023 03:47pm)
Diablo 4 open world is 100x bigger and more interesting than Diablo 2's 4 layouts will ever be.


Is it really tho? Looks like a set path through repetitive tiles, you are not wondering off anywhere, open world my ass more like a confined space where you follow trails, it's like walking thru Act 3 in D2 without teleport, damn that sucks..

cOpE HaRdEr dur dur dur lmao

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May 15 2023 10:32pm
Quote (Brandon9405 @ May 15 2023 12:47pm)
They didn't do 4 player multi co-op because they were unable to do 8 players. It's just that 8 players all jammed into dungeon corridors moving around each other feels like shit. Too much screen clutter isn't fun and even with 4 players there is enough going on in D4. It's not a indication of a limitation it's what feels better.

Diablo 4 open world is 100x bigger and more interesting than Diablo 2's 4 layouts will ever be man COPE HARDER.


Great insight, as all the MOBA and FPS games have already learned, skill based team combat caps out at 4-5 players, after that it quickly becomes diluted and turns into nothing but a zergfest.
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