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Jun 11 2023 10:47am
Quote (ChocolateCoveredGummyBears @ Jun 11 2023 11:42am)
scroll up and apply some reading comprehension. whiskey just posted a full list and you totally ignored it


No wrong, original technical aspects as in the ""20 years of advancement of game software and modeling tools, all to get clobbered by a 20 year old game that runs in a 800x600 window and utilizes 40mb of ram" was referenced as a means to belittle the standing of the game. I asked for how you would better take advantage of modern tech to improve the game as that was what was referenced.

Whisky listed business/game logic personal disagreements. Those are not the same.
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Jun 11 2023 10:48am
why do people say there's no trading? well rolled rare are the most important items and they can be traded. they already sell for thousands.

This post was edited by drallcom3 on Jun 11 2023 10:48am
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Jun 11 2023 10:50am
Quote (ChocolateCoveredGummyBears @ Jun 11 2023 12:46pm)
nice dodge. so yeah, restricted trading and monster area dmg/scaling. great counter arguments!

we can down the list 1 by 1 if that works for you


You do that, and when it finally hits you, if it ever does.. then, atoadaso.

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No wrong, original technical aspects as in the ""20 years of advancement of game software and modeling tools, all to get clobbered by a 20 year old game that runs in a 800x600 window and utilizes 40mb of ram" was referenced as a means to belittle the standing of the game. I asked for how you would better take advantage of modern tech to improve the game as that was what was referenced.

Whisky listed business/game logic personal disagreements. Those are not the same.


you answered it yourself, "to belittle the standing of the game". and it did just that

sorry that d2, a 20 year old game offers far more replayability and better itemization than a newly developed game, while using far less game tools and resources at their disposal as well
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Jun 11 2023 10:51am
Quote (ChocolateCoveredGummyBears @ Jun 11 2023 11:50am)
you answered it yourself, "to belittle the standing of the game". and it did just that

sorry that d2, a 20 year old game offers far more replayability and better itemization than a newly developed game, while using far less game tools and resources at their disposal as well


Avoiding the question still as you can't answer it.
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Jun 11 2023 10:51am
Quote (curb @ Jun 11 2023 12:41pm)
Seems like most of these are based on your opinion. But like... woke propaganda? Come on bud, give those baals a tug!



1. Monster Scaling / Poor Player Progression - True, Fact Check, Dynamic Scaling

2. Restricted Trading - True, Fact Check, Account Bound

3. Limit 4x co-op, the year is 2023, not 1997 - True, Fact Check, 1997 Diablo 1 release included 4x co-op

4. 5x Classes, 4x co-op - True, Fact Check, 5x classes in D4, only 4x player co-op

5. No Paladin / Warrior ( hack n slash is a genre?) - True, Fact Check, No Paladin/Warrior style hack n slash, sword & shield wielding char in DIV. (necro is not this type, nn/qq)

6. Screen Spam True, Fact Check, Screen Spam from damage numbers, buzzwords, gold picks, life bars, clog up entire screen, including exposed mini-map

7. Lack of Innovation (insert D3 mechanics, itemization, Immortal gameplay, Wow open world) - True, Fact Check, D4 brings with it the least innovation in the entire series!

8. Limited PVP - True, Fact Check, PVP is limited to only the Fields of Stupidity

9. Evasive Death Elixirs - True, Fact Check, cheat death potions are in game

10. Ugly Character Models, "Near Endless Character Customization" - complete flat out lie by Joe Shely developer - True, Fact Check, Fat Druids, Butch Haircuts, ugly beyond belief

11. Hit all aspects of the Monetization Tree, Early Access, Microtransactions, Initial game cost, Battle Passes, Expansions - True, Fact Check, $70+early access,+BP+MTX

12. Collector's Edition for $100 but Game Sold Separately - True, Fact Check, just look at Blizzard's website

13. Smart Loot, designed for casuals who don't know what to use... - True, Fact Check, Items drop based on character choice, not D2 style RNG

14. No Map Overlay - Staple Feature missing, 1997 called.. True, Fact Check overlay map is missing

15. Lack of Build Variety, holds no weight vs other titles - True, Fact Check, skill tree remains mostly the same from lvl 20 to end game, build diversity is missing

16. Cooldowns length of delays increased by a multiplier of 20x vs Diablo 2 cast rates view frame delay - True, Fact Check 264 frame delay teleport vs 13 frame delay teleport d2

17. Maps are not as open as Diablo 2, they look and feel like narrow paths you have to follow, lack of freedom of movement. - True, Fact Check, look at D2's open maps, n compare

18. Diablo isn't in the game - True, Fact Check, not in game

19. Woke Propaganda inserted into Character Creation, i.e. Body Types? What is a Woman? - True, Fact Check, selection is not Male or Female, it is indeed body types

20. Level 100 took under 4 days, Game is fully maxed out and over before Standard Edition release date - True, Fact Check, Streamer hit 100 in 4 days

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Quote (Snyft2 @ Jun 11 2023 12:46pm)
keep up with the times bro ^_^ a year ago what we were saying was based on an opinion. now its just facts

games shit
deal with it ^_^


You cant read a list of someones opinions and say theyre fact. It's moronic. I wasnt even defending the game, I am just pointing out that one or two of the folks constantly complaining on this forum are just full of shit. Pretty cut and dry. One of them def has some mental health issues too that they should get checked out.
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Jun 11 2023 10:53am
Quote (curb @ Jun 11 2023 09:51am)
You cant read a list of someones opinions and say theyre fact. It's moronic. I wasnt even defending the game, I am just pointing out that one or two of the folks constantly complaining on this forum are just full of shit. Pretty cut and dry. One of them def has some mental health issues too that they should get checked out.


i'd argue the person randomly quoting users on a 2003 jsp account telling them to "tug their private parts" is the one that might need to see a doctor
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Quote (WhiskeyRunz @ Jun 11 2023 12:51pm)
1. Monster Scaling / Poor Player Progression - True, Fact Check, Dynamic Scaling

2. Restricted Trading - True, Fact Check, Account Bound

3. Limit 4x co-op, the year is 2023, not 1997 - True, Fact Check, 1997 Diablo 1 release included 4x co-op

4. 5x Classes, 4x co-op - True, Fact Check, 5x classes in D4, only 4x player co-op

5. No Paladin / Warrior ( hack n slash is a genre?) - True, Fact Check, No Paladin/Warrior style hack n slash, sword & shield wielding char in DIV. (necro is not this type, nn/qq)

6. Screen Spam True, Fact Check, Screen Spam from damage numbers, buzzwords, gold picks, life bars, clog up entire screen, including exposed mini-map

7. Lack of Innovation (insert D3 mechanics, itemization, Immortal gameplay, Wow open world) - True, Fact Check, D4 brings with it the least innovation in the entire series!

8. Limited PVP - True, Fact Check, PVP is limited to only the Fields of Stupidity

9. Evasive Death Elixirs - True, Fact Check, cheat death potions are in game

10. Ugly Character Models, "Near Endless Character Customization" - complete flat out lie by Joe Shely developer - True, Fact Check, Fat Druids, Butch Haircuts, ugly beyond belief

11. Hit all aspects of the Monetization Tree, Early Access, Microtransactions, Initial game cost, Battle Passes, Expansions - True, Fact Check, $70+early access,+BP+MTX

12. Collector's Edition for $100 but Game Sold Separately - True, Fact Check, just look at Blizzard's website

13. Smart Loot, designed for casuals who don't know what to use... - True, Fact Check, Items drop based on character choice, not D2 style RNG

14. No Map Overlay - Staple Feature missing, 1997 called.. True, Fact Check overlay map is missing

15. Lack of Build Variety, holds no weight vs other titles - True, Fact Check, skill tree remains mostly the same from lvl 20 to end game, build diversity is missing

16. Cooldowns length of delays increased by a multiplier of 20x vs Diablo 2 cast rates view frame delay - True, Fact Check 264 frame delay teleport vs 13 frame delay teleport d2

17. Maps are not as open as Diablo 2, they look and feel like narrow paths you have to follow, lack of freedom of movement. - True, Fact Check, look at D2's open maps, n compare

18. Diablo isn't in the game - True, Fact Check, not in game

19. Woke Propaganda inserted into Character Creation, i.e. Body Types? What is a Woman? - True, Fact Check, selection is not Male or Female, it is indeed body types

20. Level 100 took under 4 days, Game is fully maxed out and over before Standard Edition release date - True, Fact Check, Streamer hit 100 in 4 days


:rofl:

You really are dense as a doorknob, arent ya bud?
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Jun 11 2023 10:55am
Quote (ChocolateCoveredGummyBears @ Jun 11 2023 12:53pm)
i'd argue the person randomly quoting users on a 2003 jsp account telling them to "tug their private parts" is the one that might need to see a doctor


I will give you that. Why I waste time on morons wasting their time could be a mental illness on my part too. You not getting the reference of giving your balls a tug though? Well, sucks to be you, bud.
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