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Jul 18 2023 01:31pm
Quote (Gemfire1987 @ Jul 18 2023 02:26pm)
Pretty nice actually.. This might be what the game needed. Although, the cooldown reduction is going to hurt a bit ;)


this change SUCK for 2 days, anyone trying to play eternal now just say a huge nerf.

on a fresh server tho its good, the game is harder, the progress is slower. a few more builds become semi-viable, and the builds that cleared world bosses in 30 seconds got nerfed. NM dungeons still the go-to, but tree of whispers buff is nice.

250 cinders for helltides is dumb, but really just makes it so it takes a few mins longer to farm 1 and harder to farm 2x chests per helltide.
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Jul 18 2023 01:31pm
Quote (thebearsfan5434 @ Jul 18 2023 03:30pm)
When the patch is so bad JSP turns into bodybuilding.com misc


Sounds like a buff to jsp to me
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Jul 18 2023 01:35pm
Quote (C4NTWO @ Jul 18 2023 12:18pm)
still waiting on that sorc build which does not use frost nova. until then your argument about sorc build diversity is utter trash...


you're not even making an argument outside of how vulnerable is applied. every build has it. doesn't matter what class - ie. puncture for rogue etc. imagine me trying to argue there is no build diversity inside of a core game mechanic. what a dogshit argument. show me one viable build that doesn't apply vulnerable? they touched on vulnerable being meta, and why they nerfed it. but they didn't buff anything significantly to counter the nerfs, which means objectively everyone is now weaker. that's just a lazy way to " balance " classes.

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Jul 18 2023 01:38pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Jul 18 2023 09:31pm)
this change SUCK for 2 days, anyone trying to play eternal now just say a huge nerf.

on a fresh server tho its good, the game is harder, the progress is slower. a few more builds become semi-viable, and the builds that cleared world bosses in 30 seconds got nerfed. NM dungeons still the go-to, but tree of whispers buff is nice.

250 cinders for helltides is dumb, but really just makes it so it takes a few mins longer to farm 1 and harder to farm 2x chests per helltide.


agreed. But my sorc plan went into the trash bin.
Think ill go druid now :)
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Jul 18 2023 01:40pm
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you're not even making an argument outside of how vulnerable is applied. every build has it. doesn't matter what class - ie. puncture for rogue etc. imagine me trying to argue there is no build diversity inside of a core game mechanic. what a dogshit argument. show me one viable build that doesn't apply vulnerable? they touched on vulnerable being meta, and why they nerfed it. but they didn't buff anything significantly to counter the nerfs, which means objectively everyone is now weaker. that's just a lazy way to " balance " classes.


we never said anything about balancing classes. we were talking about sorc build diversity. sounds like your all muscle and no brains. :bonk: try harder next time.
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Jul 18 2023 01:41pm
Quote (C4NTWO @ Jul 18 2023 12:40pm)
we never said anything about balancing classes. we were talking about sorc build diversity. sounds like your all muscle and no brains. :bonk: try harder next time.


yeah you had to dodge the whole point of my argument. what builds are viable without vulnerable? clearly your iq double digit.
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Jul 18 2023 01:41pm
they GUTTED tf out of everything that was even reasonably strong... definitely not gonna play hc this ladder lol. gonna die for sure since everything is weak af compared to before and not even counting the dc deaths

edit: before some nerd says X needed to be nerfed, yeah, i know some stuff was broken, but they literally just tuned down the numbers on ANYTHING that was viable, even armor, but glad to see res still doesnt work :P


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Quote (C4NTWO @ Jul 18 2023 03:40pm)
we never said anything about balancing classes. we were talking about sorc build diversity. sounds like your all muscle and no brains. :bonk: try harder next time.


I would say same muscle as brains lmao
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Jul 18 2023 01:43pm
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yeah you had to dodge the whole point of my argument. what builds are viable without vulnerable? clearly your iq double digit.


there are no viable builds without vulnerable you idiot. thats the whole point we are making...

when every sorc must use frost nova to apply vulnerable, there is no diversity. are you really this dumb?

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Quote (CodyOwnedU @ Jul 18 2023 12:41pm)
they GUTTED tf out of everything that was even reasonably strong... definitely not gonna play hc this ladder lol. gonna die for sure since everything is weak af compared to before and not even counting the dc deaths

edit: before some nerd says X needed to be nerfed, yeah, i know some stuff was broken, but they literally just tuned down the numbers on ANYTHING that was viable, even armor lol


What they should have done was buff every class 10% and then buff all monsters/bosses 300%

Hey guys, we didn’t nerf you ;) - Blizzard

(A harder game should be a lot more fun though! Let’s go)

This post was edited by Gemfire1987 on Jul 18 2023 01:45pm
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