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Nov 3 2019 06:15am
Quote (Sreial_ganja @ Nov 3 2019 01:07pm)
As much as I would love an actual awesome game as you guys, what did you expect? Blizzard is a company probably run by one or multiple hedge fund wich share holders only want profit. They don’t give a single fuck about what ~1000? 30y old gamers around the world want. We are not the target anymore. Kids will buy D4 and find it good. Better than D3. That’s the whole point. And if they sell enough, they will make D5, wich will be even shittier. And ppl will still buy it.
Let it go imo.
Maybe a remaster is something to wait for, but I truly don’t believe any actual sequel of D2 will be good, ever.


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Nov 3 2019 07:05am
Quote (Sreial_ganja @ Nov 3 2019 08:07am)
As much as I would love an actual awesome game as you guys, what did you expect? Blizzard is a company probably run by one or multiple hedge fund wich share holders only want profit. They don’t give a single fuck about what ~1000? 30y old gamers around the world want. We are not the target anymore. Kids will buy D4 and find it good. Better than D3. That’s the whole point. And if they sell enough, they will make D5, wich will be even shittier. And ppl will still buy it.
Let it go imo.
Maybe a remaster is something to wait for, but I truly don’t believe any actual sequel of D2 will be good, ever.



There is a lot of truth here.

As a company, Blizzard will take the game in whatever direction they believe will make them the most money. As an entrepreneur myself, I don’t blame them. As a Diablo fan, I’m pissed!

I believe they have put so much emphasis on wanting the PvP system to be top notch(they mentioned this as their goal MANY times) because they probably hope for it to be big in the esports scene so that it will make them loads of money that way. They know with any other way that they will try to make more money from it, such as microtransactions, would upset the player base way more.

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Quote (FallenZealot @ Nov 3 2019 02:05pm)
There is a lot of truth here.

As a company, Blizzard will take the game in whatever direction they believe will make them the most money. As an entrepreneur myself, I don’t blame them. As a Diablo fan, I’m pissed!

I believe they have put so much emphasis on wanting the PvP system to be top notch(they mentioned this as their goal MANY times) because they probably hope for it to be big in the esports scene so that it will make them loads of money that way. They know with any other way that they will try to make more money from it, such as microtransactions, would upset the player base way more.

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Nov 3 2019 09:55am
Quote (Goomshill @ Nov 1 2019 06:35pm)
I don't mind having 3d graphics in a diablo-like, but jesus do I hate how spell effects/attacks prioritize the visual glitter with no regard for how the player perceives its AoE, boundaries, when an effect ends, etc. In Diablo 1/2 you had 2d sprites on an isometric grid and it was always easy enough to see something like "Heres your firewall, it only exists on these tiles, any pixel perfect movement around it will avoid it'. Now everything is buried on-screen under particle effects, physics objects bouncing around in havok, dirt spray, flowing beams, dust, etc. Look at the spell effects, shit is bouncing all over the place and I can't follow exactly what it hitting where. In D2, you could dodge fireballs being spammed at you from a 200% fcr sorc offscreen, you could WSG through 5 traps and dodge around lightning bolts
I can't see shit here, its just D3 again

THIS! A clear gameplay explanation on the gameplay difference between Diablo II and Diablo III for why DII players did not like DIII's gameplay.

Quote (Hecht55 @ Nov 3 2019 07:48am)
Will check out refund policy, maybe I can play through story and return.

Missed my chance to do that with D3, still regret not getting that money back.

Check out GameFly in order to rent video games.

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Nov 3 2019 11:45am
Quote (zone030 @ Nov 3 2019 09:09am)
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Nov 3 2019 12:32pm
Quote (Sreial_ganja @ Nov 3 2019 04:07am)
As much as I would love an actual awesome game as you guys, what did you expect? Blizzard is a company probably run by one or multiple hedge fund wich share holders only want profit. They don’t give a single fuck about what ~1000? 30y old gamers around the world want. We are not the target anymore. Kids will buy D4 and find it good. Better than D3. That’s the whole point. And if they sell enough, they will make D5, wich will be even shittier. And ppl will still buy it.
Let it go imo.
Maybe a remaster is something to wait for, but I truly don’t believe any actual sequel of D2 will be good, ever.


ya, at least poe has 4.0 reveal coming up and your hand isn't held in that game.

Might play some d2 ladder reset, got the old itch for a good diablo game.
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Nov 3 2019 12:32pm
I think its looking good.

you have to invest skill points again like d2
no more hp globes back to pots like d2
the druid is exactly like d2 only in 3d
the new runeword idea looks better then d2's OP runewords
trading and Pvp is a big deal which we have no idea how it will work but we know they will put that in there.
the UI is much like d3 but thats just how its done these days.
i can't wait to see the "dismount combat skills" they are talking about.

they heard the community saying they want the game to be more like d2 and they are delivering just that.


my only concerns is how the trading aspect will work, and the legendary items Vs Rares. IMO they should allow for free trade of any item at any time with anyone, i do not care that this means a "rich noob" can buy some good gear. ( then again PvP players might not like that hmmm). thats what made d2 so cool, finding a good item and knowing that it had real-world value! amazing!
maybe they could make it so that for PvP all your items must be set to account bound or something? everyone wins?
how trading is implemented is going to make or break the game.

and also the balance between different types of items, rares sets and legendary, they all need to feel useful to pick up and hoard for potential later use or resale. if it boils down to only a handful of key legendary items that are used / have any value, they have failed.


another thing that is very encouraging is that they appear to be looking for feedback and seem willing to change design aspects based on feedback.


blizzard may yet redeem themselves

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Nov 3 2019 12:47pm
Quote (Effektivv @ Nov 1 2019 05:20pm)
Even worse, this is immortal reskinned and they are giving it to us as D4.


Everyone really just wants D2 Remastered, they know that, not sure why they won't just put all their efforts behind that.
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Nov 3 2019 01:03pm
Quote (RyanTBS25 @ Nov 3 2019 11:47am)
Everyone really just wants D2 Remastered, they know that, not sure why they won't just put all their efforts behind that.


Honestly I'd be happy if they put effort into a better d3 I'm gonna forget shit but give me build diversity, good story, pvp, more endgame shit.
This farming non tradable legendary shit where everyone does the same builds with the same gear is boring af. Arpgs aren't difficult to make for small companies but they are apparently rocket science for blizzard.


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Quote (Effektivv @ Nov 3 2019 02:03pm)
Honestly I'd be happy if they put effort into a better d3 I'm gonna forget shit but give me build diversity, good story, pvp, more endgame shit.
This farming non tradable legendary shit where everyone does the same builds with the same gear is boring af. Arpgs aren't difficult to make for small companies but they are apparently rocket science for blizzard.


D3 is fun to play for 1-2 weeks when a new season starts, but it's just awful after that. Build diversity needs to be improved, instead of just rotating 2-3 class sets, need runewords, need more complex skill setups, better stat calculations, etc.

I have hopes that D4 will improve, I'm assuming we won't see the game for at least another year, so they have plenty of time to make good changes.. But based on their track record, they seem to be focusing all of their games to be more inclusive of everyone instead of allowing superior players to excel.
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