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Jun 12 2023 08:57pm
Quote (GodlyWirt @ Jun 12 2023 07:49pm)
It’s amusing though mainly because even after I talk logic and ask for a discussion they continue to insult or say look he’s triggered when in no way or form is any emotion merely just looking for a discussion on what people actually think is so great about diablo 4, yet I think majority of the player base spent their money and are too many hours deep to openly admit the game is mid at best, but in their hearts I do believe they know that as they can’t come up with any actual conclusion..


the problem is a lot of them just don't care about the genre anymore. they are getting close to retirement, in their 30s busy with being a dad, or just simply don't care and want to just hop on a game to play, etc. a lot them view the game through a lens of time spent:$ ratio, like the infamous "i got my money's worth" which is just weird in and of itself. d2 was $49 and offered far more than 6 days of play time



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Jun 12 2023 08:59pm
Quote (ChocolateCoveredGummyBears @ Jun 12 2023 07:35pm)
forming a worrisome picture based on individual pieces in true crime is flawed due to selective bias, which can lead to a distorted / incomplete understanding of the situation


Very true, some innocent people even get convicted but in general I think the rigorous jury selection process and system works pretty well (at least in high-profile cases). It's not perfect of course but I can't think of a realistic better alternative.
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Jun 12 2023 09:02pm
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the problem is a lot of them just don't care about the genre anymore. they are getting close to retirement, in their 30s busy with being a dad, or just simply don't care and want to just hop on a game to play, etc. a lot them view the game through a lens of time spent:$ ratio, like the infamous "i got my money's worth" which is just weird in and of it self. d2 was $49 and offered far more than 6 days of play time


Not to continue the back and forth. But for the overwhelming number of people that bought and played d2, it probably had the same longevity as most ARPG's have throughout time. Played for a week or two then moved on to something else.

Just because a few of us autistic weirdos took it to a whole other level doesn't mean that every game in the diablo franchise should or even could. I do believe Blizzard will take what they have and continue to make improvements. Just like they did with d3, even if they went in the opposite direction the autistics wanted in that title.
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Quote (ChocolateCoveredGummyBears @ Jun 12 2023 10:57pm)
the problem is a lot of them just don't care about the genre anymore. they are getting close to retirement, in their 30s busy with being a dad, or just simply don't care and want to just hop on a game to play, etc. a lot them view the game through a lens of time spent:$ ratio, like the infamous "i got my money's worth" which is just weird in and of it self. d2 was $49 and offered far more than 6 days of play time



Majority of people said if ladder reset happened and for 100$ could start 4 days early they would buy it still. I asked why and got called a lawnmower peasant or something which I probably make more money then majority here though not the point it’s the fact people are okay with the scams gaming is becoming blizzard charging extra for 4 days early access should have caused so much backlash but it didn’t so at this rate it’s only a matter of time where gaming takes a real wrong turn. I would imagine diablo 5 to join any ladder each season and make a character it will be 49.99$ to have access to the 10 exclusive items only found there and only state of game being properly updates or likely much worse. The problem isn’t even blizzard which I blamed for years, it’s people okay with this type of bs and letting that redline get deeper and deeper down the line, maybe when people have to pay for air to breathe we will realize something isn’t right here.
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Quote (Snyft2 @ Jun 12 2023 10:28pm)
i was so happy for them :wub: they actually showed integrity, ive havent seen anything like it in years :wacko:


Ya I never played but I watched a YouTube doc on it and there was a part where their offices got absolutely btfo'd by a huge flood but somehow they still put out the game
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Jun 12 2023 09:04pm
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Not to continue the back and forth. But for the overwhelming number of people that bought and played d2, it probably had the same longevity as most ARPG's have throughout time. Played for a week or two then moved on to something else.


that's not true by any stretch of the imagination. you're telling me d2 players played d2 for only a week or two when it came out?

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Quote (zorzin @ Jun 13 2023 05:03am)
Ya I never played but I watched a YouTube doc on it and there was a part where their offices got absolutely btfo'd by a huge flood but somehow they still put out the game


awww they just couldnt catch a break :( heard cyberpunk is now taking the same route, fixing and all!
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Jun 12 2023 09:10pm
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Not to continue the back and forth. But for the overwhelming number of people that bought and played d2, it probably had the same longevity as most ARPG's have throughout time. Played for a week or two then moved on to something else.

Just because a few of us autistic weirdos took it to a whole other level doesn't mean that every game in the diablo franchise should or even could. I do believe Blizzard will take what they have and continue to make improvements. Just like they did with d3, even if they went in the opposite direction the autistics wanted in that title.


bro, they made 0 improvements to d3 after its release. in fact, they deliberately killed the fcking game LMAO
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Jun 12 2023 09:11pm
Quote (ChocolateCoveredGummyBears @ 12 Jun 2023 22:10)
bro, they made 0 improvements to d3 after its release. in fact, they deliberately killed the fcking game LMAO


Just because you didn't like it, doesn't mean d3 wasn't massively improved with a community that still plays to this day. You are not the arbiter of fun for other people.

If they had kept no changes upon release, the game would have 100% died completely.

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that's not true by any stretch of the imagination. you're telling me d2 players played d2 for only a week or two when it came out?



Highly disagree also lol I remember all of my friends played diablo 2 everyday pretty much when it was in vanilla states and first ladders of LOD. game was extremely active and majority of players I met in game played for months/years..

Most people that quit came back over and over. Where most games if I quit I never returned

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