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Mar 21 2023 12:45pm
Quote (Methwitch @ 21 Mar 2023 14:44)
punishing 99% od the player base because 1% cheater is a stupid strategy.


in d2, 99% of the player base was bots.

sure, d4 will be new so that won't be the same, but it'll get to the point that every other wise you meet will be botting cuz its necessary to compete. It is better to write them out of the equation.

lots of people just want bots cuz they can't compete otherwise, or are lazy. and they will say anything, lying through their fuckign teeth, about wanting free trade.

when in reality they just want to cheat

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Quote (Ryvulet @ Mar 21 2023 02:45pm)
in d2, 99% of the player base was bots.

sure, d4 will be new so that won't be the same, but it'll get to the point that every other wise you meet will be botting cuz its necessary to compete. It is better to write them out of the equation.

lots of people just want bots cuz they can't compete otherwise, or are lazy. and they will say anything, lying through their fuckign teeth, about wanting free trade.

when in reality they just want to cheat

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there will be bots no matter trading is available or not.
It<s blizzard responsibility to handle a hack shield. Blocking trading just show how fucking incompetent they truly are
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Mar 21 2023 12:51pm
Quote (Methwitch @ 21 Mar 2023 14:50)
there will be bots no matter trading is available or not.
It<s blizzard responsibility to handle a hack shield. Blocking trading just show how fucking incompetent they truly are


nah. like i said, the real way to beat cheats is to have GOOD anti cheat, and GOOD developers closing loopholes. THEN, it is to make the game hard to PROFIT from.

then there is no incentive for people to develop cheats for that agme for all the work they have to go through. aka no market.

100% free trade is RMT city. Half of ya'll buy fg, or buy items from websites. that gives the cheaters a reason to cheat.

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Quote (Ryvulet @ Mar 21 2023 07:45pm)
in d2, 99% of the player base was bots.

sure, d4 will be new so that won't be the same, but it'll get to the point that every other wise you meet will be botting cuz its necessary to compete. It is better to write them out of the equation.

lots of people just want bots cuz they can't compete otherwise, or are lazy. and they will say anything, lying through their fuckign teeth, about wanting free trade.

when in reality they just want to cheat

:)


in reality D4 will lose 95% of the player base if trading was not allowed. That is what happened with D3 after they closed the AH. resulting in 50 Twitch streams per evening compared to 15000 of POE. What do you think Blizz wants? a successful game or a shit game for pansies.

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Mar 21 2023 12:53pm
Quote (qabooze @ 21 Mar 2023 14:51)
in reality D4 will lose 95% of the player base if trading was not allowed. That is what happened with D3 after they closed the AH. resulting in 50 Twitch streams per evening compared to 15000 of POE. What do you think Blizz wants? a successful game or a shit game for pansies.


Are you so certain? D3 had to compete with PoE for sure.

but not PoE isn't even that great. its too complex and even though i played it in the past i don't touch it now.

Also, D4 is always playing out to be way better than D3. Lots of people liken it to mmorpg, and it has a lot of rpg elements that do somewhat associate with some mmo's, but im likening it more to a hybrid of solo rpg/arpg. It is multiplayer, but has elements that make solo rpg games fun in a multi player rpg.

that'll get people putting around 300 or so hours into the game.

100-300 hour sis the norms for most games tbh.

ya'll who dedicate 1000s upon 1000s of hours into games are a minority and not the real focus.
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Mar 21 2023 12:55pm
Quote (Methwitch @ Mar 21 2023 07:50pm)
there will be bots no matter trading is available or not.
It<s blizzard responsibility to handle a hack shield. Blocking trading just show how fucking incompetent they truly are


exactly, besides that, they will make a lot of money catching bots. tbh i would immediately apply for the job to catch bots if i get 50% of sell of a new game. That would pay better than 99% of the jobs in the world. lets say 60x 35$ times 8 hours per day, resulting in a 8hour work day and 18000$ salary per day, let's bring it on!

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Mar 21 2023 12:58pm
Quote (Ryvulet @ Mar 21 2023 07:53pm)
Are you so certain? D3 had to compete with PoE for sure.

but not PoE isn't even that great. its too complex and even though i played it in the past i don't touch it now..


exactly, can you imagine how bad D3 became after the closing of the AH.

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Mar 21 2023 01:18pm
Quote (Ryvulet @ 21 Mar 2023 19:51)
nah. like i said, the real way to beat cheats is to have GOOD anti cheat,


Wait, good anti cheat is removing open trade? Thats not anti cheat, its removing core element of the arpg.



This post was edited by Fankytore on Mar 21 2023 01:22pm
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Mar 23 2023 01:35pm
Bump for those who want to vote
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Mar 23 2023 02:43pm
being able to transfer currency from another game to d4 will only ruin the economy for legitimate players.

im not a botter boi so i dont want your D2 botted bers impacting the d4 economy. i wish there was a way around this but sadly not. open trade = pay2win ... didnt you all hate on immortal???

open trade aint happening, whine all you want.
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