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Oct 10 2024 12:30am
Quote (WhiskeyRunz @ 10 Oct 2024 05:47)
You haven't moved on whatsoever, in fact you're the example of someone clinging to a past, still here, pretending modern Blizz could be redeemable..

It's not clinging to nostalgia, it's pointing how flawed D4 was from release, it's comparing creativity, innovation, and design from an A+ team to a money hungry corporate empire full of DEI hires.

Speaking truth to facts is not cope, it's reality.


No idea why people bring d2 nostalgia as an argument here, it is d4 forum. When you tell them d4 is garbage, they start arguing about d2 suddenly, lol.
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Oct 10 2024 12:35am
Quote (Madmaxio @ Oct 10 2024 02:30am)
No idea why people bring d2 nostalgia as an argument here, it is d4 forum. When you tell them d4 is garbage, they start arguing about d2 suddenly, lol.


i mean tbf both games are trash

D4 was never really good. D2 was good 20 years ago. 20 YEARS AGO. It has aged poorly and is a snoozefest unless you clinging to nostalgia.

This post was edited by Uncle_Baby_Billy on Oct 10 2024 12:36am
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Oct 10 2024 12:51am
Quote (WhiskeyRunz @ Oct 9 2024 09:47pm)
You haven't moved on whatsoever, in fact you're the example of someone clinging to a past, still here, pretending modern Blizz could be redeemable..

It's not clinging to nostalgia, it's pointing how flawed D4 was from release, it's comparing creativity, innovation, and design from an A+ team to a money hungry corporate empire full of DEI hires.

Speaking truth to facts is not cope, it's reality.


do you know the story of oregon trail?
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Oct 10 2024 03:45am
Quote (WhiskeyRunz @ Oct 9 2024 09:47pm)
You haven't moved on whatsoever, in fact you're the example of someone clinging to a past, still here, pretending modern Blizz could be redeemable..

It's not clinging to nostalgia, it's pointing how flawed D4 was from release, it's comparing creativity, innovation, and design from an A+ team to a money hungry corporate empire full of DEI hires.

Speaking truth to facts is not cope, it's reality.


Here we go again.

1. Name ONE Isometric ARPG doing better than d4 right now.

2. Name one Isometric ARPG that has EVER done better than D4 is doing right now.

3. Now, of those games which one isn’t over 10 years old?


Now, I don’t expect you to come on here and be honest. It is a site aimed at fanboys living in nostalgia land (at this point literally the ENTIRE purpose of the site) but I’m definitely interested in your answer.


Also before another clown comes on here and says “sales aren’t indicative of a good game”, you are right but continued sales combined with profit and active playerbase are.


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Oct 10 2024 04:54am
Quote (Madmaxio @ Oct 10 2024 07:30pm)
No idea why people bring d2 nostalgia as an argument here, it is d4 forum. When you tell them d4 is garbage, they start arguing about d2 suddenly, lol.


to be fair a lot of this d4 xpac is diablo 2 based lol
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Oct 10 2024 06:34am
Quote (WhiskeyRunz @ Oct 10 2024 03:47am)
You haven't moved on whatsoever, in fact you're the example of someone clinging to a past, still here, pretending modern Blizz could be redeemable..

It's not clinging to nostalgia, it's pointing how flawed D4 was from release, it's comparing creativity, innovation, and design from an A+ team to a money hungry corporate empire full of DEI hires.

Speaking truth to facts is not cope, it's reality.


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Its not looking good for you brev
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Quote (MadMan87 @ Oct 10 2024 05:45am)
Here we go again.

1. Name ONE Isometric ARPG doing better than d4 right now


please atleast acknowledge that its possible a best selling game isnt really all that good... best selling seriously doesnt mean shit. :wacko:
the irony being that the only reason d3/d4 sold as much as is it did is because of the previous installments to the franchise.


or please elaborate on what you mean about "doing better"...

This post was edited by C4NTWO on Oct 10 2024 07:00am
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Quote (C4NTWO @ Oct 10 2024 07:57am)
please atleast acknowledge that its possible a best selling game isnt really all that good... best selling seriously doesnt mean shit. :wacko:


It’s possible that it isn’t good for sure. But keeping a concurrent base that’s active kind of counters that argument. D2 jsp fans don’t like it true but guess what? Outside of JSP it’s pretty easy to find people to play with. I got 20 Duriel runs for free multiple times after only 1-3 minutes of posts being up. Guess how long I’ve waited for a G rush on D2R multiple times?

Sure. D2 jsp fans don’t like it. But the game is super active. Activity means there is a TON of people that ENJOY IT.
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Quote (MadMan87 @ Oct 10 2024 09:01am)
It’s possible that it isn’t good for sure. But keeping a concurrent base that’s active kind of counters that argument. D2 jsp fans don’t like it true but guess what? Outside of JSP it’s pretty easy to find people to play with. I got 20 Duriel runs for free multiple times after only 1-3 minutes of posts being up. Guess how long I’ve waited for a G rush on D2R multiple times?

Sure. D2 jsp fans don’t like it. But the game is super active. Activity means there is a TON of people that ENJOY IT.


good to know that d4 is shitty enough to compare it to a 20 (25?) year old game... haha. that alone is a testament about how good d2 was and how mediocre d4 is.

the seasonal model drives the concurrent numbers and the player drop off after 2 weeks of a new season is a sign the game is lame. if it wasnt. the numbers would stay high throughout the seasons duration.

youre right that d2jsp users will have a varried opinion. but i trust it way more than the general publics because jsper's are gamer nerds. i dont care about the casual couch dads opinion and neither should you and cattering the game to them, since they outnumber us, has ruined d3/d4 and arguably the entire franchise.

if seasons didnt exist d4 would be a ghost town.. and yet people still play d2 or d2r nonladder....

This post was edited by C4NTWO on Oct 10 2024 07:17am
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Quote (C4NTWO @ Oct 10 2024 08:03am)
good to know that d4 is shitty enough to compare it to a 20 (25?) year old game... haha. that alone is a testament about how good d2 was and how mediocre d4 is.

the seasonal model drives the concurrent numbers and the player drop off after 2 weeks of a new season is a sign the game is lame. if it wasnt. the numbers would stay high throughout the seasons duration.

youre right that d2jsp users will have a varried opinion. but i trust it way more than the general publics because jsper's are gamer nerds. i dont care about the casual couch dads opinion and neither should you and cattering the game to them, since they outnumber us, has ruined d3/d4 and arguably the entire franchise.

if seasons didnt exist d4 would be a ghost town.. and yet people still play d2 or d2r nonladder....


Like I said NAME ONE game in D4’s genre as successful as it right now. You are asking me to take the word of 100(maybe) people on a site the average Diablo player hates over the actions of millions? Get real.

D2 IS a ghost town outside of d2jsp. Come on.

I’m still waiting well over 24hr to the answer of the same question and all y’all ever say is “d2” but then when I point things out conveniently d2 is “20 years old”. You are cherry picking when d2 is relevant and providing no answer to the question .

This post was edited by MadMan87 on Oct 10 2024 07:23am
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