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Jul 18 2023 12:47pm
Quote (VickIsSick07 @ Jul 18 2023 11:46am)
Bro stfu with this white knight nonsense. Check my post history clown


rage lol - and btw you failed to make any case to your original point
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Jul 18 2023 12:48pm
Quote (crushing @ Jul 18 2023 02:44pm)
what are you talking about? i mained a sorc to 100 if you built cooldown and had the frost nova aspect you pretty much had infinite vuln. also they nerfed cooldown too. sorc is objectively going to be the worst it's ever been. btw you're the one whiteknighting rod ferguson rn dude. chill.



The only way to get vuln is playing a cold sorc bro this is stupid and you know it. 0 build variety
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Quote (crushing @ Jul 18 2023 02:47pm)
who exactly was "universally" asking for vuln nerfs?


Everyone with a brain. Making it mandatory on everyone is flat out stupid. They should just change what it does completely.
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Quote (Red_Vex @ Jul 18 2023 08:36pm)
so you explain to me that Rod Fergusson makes a patch that nerfs everything but that he will compensate for this decrease with seasonal content?

https://i.ibb.co/vxLxnfF/Rod-Fergusson-Coalition.jpg


force ppls to play season to even pay more to this game good tactic :D
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Quote (VickIsSick07 @ Jul 18 2023 11:48am)
Everyone with a brain. Making it mandatory on everyone is flat out stupid. They should just change what it does completely.


Yes it needs to be reworked. It's bad design. Just nerfing it doesn't make it any less mandatory.
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Quote (Turiaf @ Jul 18 2023 11:46am)
The problem wasn't damage alone though. And by the way, those flat % buffs do NOT equate out to what vuln/crit did. (25% vs. 150% for example? huge swings)

The problem is lack of survivability and insane resource dependency on sorc.

Problems
-Sorcs are required to use 4 defensive cooldowns to survive
-Basic abilities dont generate resource
-Sorc CORE ability/MASTERY ability cost insane amounts of resource
-Once resource is expended (4, 5 core casts? less for Mastery), sorc must evade or use DEF cooldown (Squishy)

All stat investment is oriented around cooldown + resource regen/mana reduction.

In the problem statement above, resources will CONTINUE to be expended at the same rate -- but then the sorc has less viable options to escape.

- Damage is worse
- Resource demand is the same
- Survival/Defense is worse

Sorcs can't take when they're out of resource, they have to flee. They get fucking crushed by one poison tick, and can be 2 shotted by trash mobs in Helltide (lvl 80+).


yup it's seemingly going to be the worst class to play now
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Jul 18 2023 12:50pm
Quote (crushing @ Jul 18 2023 02:47pm)
rage lol - and btw you failed to make any case to your original point


I don't care to make any case to some clueless clown that even utters the words 'whiteknighting' you internet try hard.
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Quote (VickIsSick07 @ 18 Jul 2023 20:48)
Everyone with a brain. Making it mandatory on everyone is flat out stupid. They should just change what it does completely.


If you argue like that every damage multiplier is stupid and we need just flat damage...
Yea making vulv mandatory its the way they developed the game.

Now whiteknighting Blizzard for nerfing Vulv is a huge yikes.
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Jul 18 2023 12:51pm
Quote (viaaa @ Jul 18 2023 11:48am)
The only way to get vuln is playing a cold sorc bro this is stupid and you know it. 0 build variety


no thats not true at all - mained arc lash to 90's and had frost nova for cc and vuln. almost all sorc builds used frost nova if you had more than 2 brain cells.
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