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Jul 15 2023 10:33am
Quote (Psycobone1 @ Jul 15 2023 06:02am)
I understand your comparison to d2 and all but everytime ppl say the game in out for 1 month and thats why it doesnt have end game content forgets that diablo 3 came out 2012, and i checked it says that d4 development started in 2014, that's 9 years to make a game. They had all the data, feedback, knowledge , experience of all past diablo 1,2,3 to make D4 with actual content for 9 YEARS. this excuse of the game is out for 1 month thats why it doesn't have content doesnt seem logic to me. now imagine poe2 comes out and it doesnt have maps, doesnt have all the ubers or all the content they added. it comes out bare bone, ppl wont say "ah its normal the game just came out give it another couple years" no ppl would go nuts and rightfully because you had all that experience and knowledge and ideas. its the same thing for D4 but somehow its been out a month so its ok. lol



Tbh i dont believe much they were developing this in 2014, they had like maybe an idea, but i doubt. They rushed the game like 4 years ago i would bet. Thats why there is this feeling that is lacks some things and alot of bugs. We gonna have to wait and see :P or at least those who are patient enough to wait and see.
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Jul 15 2023 11:17am
Quote (Uncle_Baby_Billy @ Jul 15 2023 06:24am)
They do need to do a lot of work to make the game more appealing.

That being said it sounds like you play ARPG's for the dopamine rush and not for the actual fun of the genre....


You do realize that fun comes from the dopamine rush, right? And this is true for every genre of games.
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Jul 15 2023 11:20am
Quote (mrco @ Jul 14 2023 09:54pm)
The game has 1month. Ppl like to compare to d2, so lets do some thinking. D2 wasnt even that good before d2lod, and still the endgame of d2 is bullshit. 10 players go pvp nowadays, and thats it. The same player pvp base. Cant even say pvm endgame from d2 its good. I even dare to say the campaign is bad. Everyone just rush to lvl 80 when making a new character and go some baals. Great game! It was a cool game like 10 years ago? Maybe more? For today? Its just bad. Go ahead and enter hardcore and see how many games there is in a friday night. 2 games avarege. Softcore a bit more and even so there is only rooms in americas. And im telling NORTH AMERICA. Cuz the other regions are just dead. Whats the point of even doing a character in d2 to pvp if there isnt players? Ppl defend so much d2 but cant even confess its just bad nowadays. The itemization its good. I can obviously say that. But d4 just launched a month ago, they are doing some shit here and there to the game, but its launched a MONTH. It will take years to a game be a solid gg game in market. Thing get add, things change, and I do have hugh expectations to d4 cuz there is A L O T of things they could add and do to the game over the months. Ofc the endgame is a bit boring , but again a MONTH. What ppl expect? A end game like PoE today? I cant even catch PoE for so many systems the game have, and yet they were added a bit by a bit. Ppl can just keep crying at forums, its fun tho, i always laugh at some topics for real, here and blizzards official foru. So many brain dead ppl. Go play another game if u dont like it how it is now. Im sure everyone raging will eventually play again the game.


you're missing the most important element: philosophy of the developers

if their views don't align with good arpg core values, it doesn't matter how long you give them. 1 year or 100 years.

at that point, it's better the end-user finds another game who has developers who match their core values they want in a game.

This post was edited by ChocolateCoveredGummyBears on Jul 15 2023 11:20am
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you're missing the most important element: philosophy of the developers

if their views don't align with good arpg core values, it doesn't matter how long you give them. 1 year or 100 years.


It all ends at who wins more cash baby
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Jul 15 2023 11:21am
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It all ends at who wins more cash baby


but if they are developing a game for an end goal of the most $, they are developing it for the wrong reasons
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Jul 15 2023 11:22am
Quote (mrco @ Jul 15 2023 01:20pm)
It all ends at who wins more cash baby


I would spend stupid amounts of cash on a really good arpg. This ain't it. Oh well, guess poe2 can have my money hopefully
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Jul 15 2023 11:59am
Quote (VickIsSick07 @ Jul 15 2023 02:22pm)
I would spend stupid amounts of cash on a really good arpg. This ain't it. Oh well, guess poe2 can have my money hopefully


I agree but what is not good for u can be good for others and they will also prob launch alot of stuff to buy. They just know how to milk money.

Quote (ChocolateCoveredGummyBears @ Jul 15 2023 02:21pm)
but if they are developing a game for an end goal of the most $, they are developing it for the wrong reasons


Most companies do even care about the right reasons? Capitalism screams
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Jul 15 2023 12:05pm
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Jul 15 2023 07:55pm
Point to remember:

Believe it or not blizzard may strike lightning in a bottle twice if they for the love of sanctuary only do class buffs on the 18th and fix pvp.

The pvp mechanics in this game are so good yet so underdeveloped it boggles my mind. If they fix FOH it will be the reason why everyone wants to grind to lvl 100 and play actual d4 endgame.

Never give up hope!
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Jul 15 2023 08:03pm
Quote (zorzin @ Jul 15 2023 09:55pm)
Point to remember:

Believe it or not blizzard may strike lightning in a bottle twice if they for the love of sanctuary only do class buffs on the 18th and fix pvp.

The pvp mechanics in this game are so good yet so underdeveloped it boggles my mind. If they fix FOH it will be the reason why everyone wants to grind to lvl 100 and play actual d4 endgame.

Never give up hope!


None of that fixes the God awful items. The game is fun to play, but absolutely nothing is fun to find.
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