I made my alt as a touch of death spiritborn. I was looking for the the aspect of interdiction and people were asking for billions I just wanted to get started. When she became level 60 I went to pits to level her glifs and kept gambling helmets and gloves. I got the interdiction aspect with 12% from a helmet I gambled and gorilla one with gaining critical strike from gloves (25% at the moment).

Do you remember if you actually used / upgraded that neck before the salvage? Or say socketed it. The one that didn’t give you the codex.

There was a bug where if you salvaged a ancestral with an aspect non ancestral items would no longer upgrade that codex.

Only ancestral items would be able to upgrade codex

Not sure if it got fixed yet

Similar experience here.. the only upgrade that i have gotten past 16/21 (duelist is 5/5) was from an item sold in 'The Den' with the blackmarket coin currency. I havn't had a single drop to boost anything over 16/21.



No i didn't. To tell the truth i just hovered my cursor over it as i saw the aspect upgrade icon on it, saw it was +8 ferocity stacks, knew it was 5/5 and went for the salvage, can't remember where it dropped but ill assume pit or horde as other than boss rota's for mats it's all im doing atm.




I am aware of that bug yes, it was the one i was referring to in my original post, but like you said ancestrals should provide an upgrade no matter what when salvaged if its higher than your current, the problem is i'm either not finding ancestrals with aspect upgrades, or the upgrades aren't applying to codex when they're salvaged, or both.

I'm just struggling to find the ancestral end of the aspects (17-21) and it seems no matter what i farm or how much i farm, they simply don't drop..

I guess many people are having a similar problem hence them selling for billions, i hope blizzard addresses it soon cause if i can't get even 1 tier above normal legendary aspects on like 4 pieces of gear while being paragon 250, something isn't right and it needs fixing.
I can only imagine how cancerous it is to get them on an alt as well..

This post was edited by WoEProtectoR on Oct 22 2024 11:47am

This is not a bug. You’re just unclear of how this works.

Here’s how:
An aspect has tiers 1/5,2/5,3/5,4/,5,5,5

750ip items are not ancestral. 800 ip items are ancestral.

Ancestral items are guaranteed to come with 1 GA (greater affix or star stat). This affix has an increased max roll % than any normal stat.

Legendary items can not have GA stats. Therefore if you see and item with a star you can rest assured it is an ancestral item with 800 ip. This is the most powerful version of that item.

The aspects from ancestral gear will unlock the highest tiers of your codex of power. Legendary gear will only unlock the lowest versions of that codex of power aspect.

Legendary aspects for example can only reach so high. Let’s say the highest a legendary aspect can go is 3/5. If you unlock a perfect 5:5 aspect on a piece of gear it will have to be extracted from a GA or Ancestral piece of gear.

When looking for aspects of higher tiers take all of your items to a blacksmith and if you see a vfx on the item it means that it will increase your codex power.

This means GA or “ancestral gear” is the only item in game that is capable of extracting the highest tiers of your codex of power.

Item power reflects flat damage on your weapon. All res on your jewelry and armor on your armor. All stats will have the capability of being “max rolls” on ga or ancestral gear. A 750 ip this season should also have max rolls for all stats albeit the armor/res all and flat damage. If your armor is capped you don’t need 800ip. If your res is capped you don’t need ip 800. If your build doesn’t scale with flat damage (wand for sorc) you don’t need 800 ip on a weapon.

Hope this helps clear up your confusion.

Check out the max roll guides for a better description than mine.

This post was edited by thumpr on Oct 22 2024 11:57am

I know the last 5 tiers are only available on ancestral items, the point that i am making is that they are not dropping, or the rate is so low that it's the bottleneck of power on most if not all builds, it's easier to get a 2-3 GA ancestral legendary or a perfect aspect unique with multiple GA's than it is to get an aspect above 16/21 for me.

You're the one that is unclear on how the 'bug' works and yes it is a bug. So the bug is that if you use an ancestral item (not neccesarily a 17-21 aspect roll) to upgrade said aspect, you CAN'T then upgrade it any further from a normal legendary, it MUST come from an ancestral, even if your current roll is 1/21 from an ancestral, you can't upgrade it to even 2/21 with a normal legendary. But again this isn't what i was getting at or saying is a problem, i mean yes it's a problem but ultimately 17+ only comes from ancestrals anyway so in the grand scheme of things it's insignificant in the long term, but those 17-21's aren't rolling, hence why people are able to sell max roll aspects for upwards of 2000fg a pop which was 8-10b gold not too long ago, a sum nobody would have naturally and only obtainable via trading or RMT.

This post was edited by WoEProtectoR on Oct 22 2024 12:21pm

There is no bug. You just don’t understand. I tried my best to help you and you seem pretty ungrateful and are clearly looking for an argument so I’ll let you wrap your head around it yourself. Best of luck pal.

Edit:
I will add that perfect aspects go for around 1500+ fg for the good ones. That would indicate there rarity. If you are upset with drop rates take it to the blizzard forums and let them know you want gg loot easily.

This post was edited by thumpr on Oct 22 2024 12:24pm

There is a bug, you're mansplaining irrelevant basic game mechanics to me and ignoring the bug which is known and documented. You should absolutely be able to upgrade an aspect all the way up to a non-ancestral items limit with non-ancestrals (16/21 in a lot of cases) but you can't if you have used an ancestral to obtain or upgrade an aspect, even at the lower end of the spectrum. But again this issue isn't what is my personal problem as i have surpassed the point to which it is a problem until.



Precisely my point, this is a discussion forum, i am discussing game related things in the relevant forum. I'm not saying i want 'gg' loot easily although 'gg' loot is more easily obtained than an aspect that previously were easy to obtain and wasn't the bottleneck on builds. The price does indicate the rarity which further highlights the problem.

This post was edited by WoEProtectoR on Oct 22 2024 12:25pm

If you found a bug. Report it on the bug section of blizzard forums.

Youre mis understanding how this works though as I’ve tried to explain. It’s not a bug. Someone will get through to you hopefully. I tried my best. Good luck.

This post was edited by thumpr on Oct 22 2024 12:26pm

Sorry for being ungrateful for you being patronising and telling me i'm wrong when i am right.

You're the one misunderstanding, if you've nothing constructive to add to the debate you can kindly refrain from posting anymore, cheers.

I have reported the bug, as have many others. You dont think you should be able to upgrade a 2/21 aspect up to 16/21 with a non-ancestral just because you got that 2/21 from an ancestral?

The piss poor aspect roll rates are most likely intentional and a result of blizzard's efforts at player retention as GA's and even mythic uniques now drop like candy and it keeps people grinding for that elusive aspect upgrade that are an absolute joke to farm.

The only people who seem to have these max rolls are streamers as i don't know a single player who has a max roll aspect for spiritborn aside from duelists which only rolls up to 5.

This post was edited by WoEProtectoR on Oct 22 2024 12:53pm