Helltides till 25 + getting all wps and killing any elites on the way on hard difficulty then switching to the difficulty above and going for the mercenary (varyana in my case), then doing some strongholds till lvl 31, then just doing vessel of hatred quests. I am at 1/8 clouds in penitent difficulty. Stop sucking hard before accusing other people of lying

That's a lot of work instead of just playing spiritborn

Fun fact, I killed that ah buhan or whatever spirit for my nephew + friend who both play spiritborn. He was too much for them on expert Keep sucking more, you're going to get better at it

im into t2 bawd paragon 65

I've started with sorc and completed all the expansion on hard difficulty in 4 hours or so. I was lucky to find one of my first legendary powers to be the one which overpowers every 20 seconds and spawns tens of red balls which explode and dealt like 80% of my damage. I was also surprised how hard it was to deal damage because previously I would always get to the hardest tier 10 lvls prior and solo everything without issues.
Then I switched to spiritborn with skipping campaign and it took around the same amount of time to get to lvl 50 even if I deal tons of damage on my own. Have no problems with damage even on penitent so far. So yea, it feels at lvl 50 spiritborn is like 10 times stronger than sorc.

T3, paragon level 120. I was very lucky to gamble ring of mendels at the curiosity guy. Afterwards, my minionsn started to do millions of damage.
I'll post a screenshot next time.

yes but they gatekeep a lot of content without VOH you'll be essentially on the f2p version of a game.