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Aug 31 2024 12:59pm
Quote (IMCL85 @ Aug 31 2024 12:18pm)
POE is anything but free, play 2 character for a bit u wand up buying over $40 in stash space any ways down the road. frankly speaking I'm too old to be interested to play grinding games, judging by the new 2.0 of d4 they r heading back to d3 route. thx but no thx


Say u bit the bullet for stash space playing poe1...those same stash spaces are being carried over to poe2 even if u bought it 10 years ago when it first came out. D4 charged full price for a game that was clearly not completed at launch, and spent a whole year trying to get it somewhat decent...kicker is now the want to charge loyal players for an expansion every year.

Seems like a very bias take. Obviously GGG needs to make some kind of revenue, not making the game for charity, but theyre one of the most ethical at doing it, i.e.diablo immortal.

Im guilty of being loyal to blizz to a fault, now ggg makes me obvious im stupid AF for still giving blizz any kind of benefit if doubt

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Aug 31 2024 04:14pm
D4 is coming out with their expansion and it's really hype. Although I think POE 2 will have many players coming in, I don't think it's going to obliterate it because most people are casual players, and D4 suits the casuals or tryhards.

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Sep 1 2024 02:08am
please dont waste your time on Diablo 4 man trust me it just is not worth it. Time is an important thing so it invest it in just a better more higher quality game. POE 2 for sure.
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Sep 1 2024 12:20pm
Quote (CrueLThug @ 1 Sep 2024 11:08)
please dont waste your time on Diablo 4 man trust me it just is not worth it. Time is an important thing so it invest it in just a better more higher quality game. POE 2 for sure.


Sad but true.
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Sep 2 2024 12:51am
Quote (ADDreen @ Aug 29 2024 10:28pm)
Been a lifer for the Diablo series...was stupid excited once D4 was excited...been waiting an entire year for it to get gud...now I'm watching POE2 interviews...shit is night and day. It's going to completely obliterate D4...and it's FREE.
Will be the first time I've not preordered a sequel to D1.

Anyone else thinking the same?


Yes d4 is poorly designed
No end game and it takes day and half to not want to play anymore and die from boredom
People hyped about runes words and they wasted their best card on this like seriously
Just make runes like d2 hard to obtain but actual make the give u unique properties and stuff like d2 not some shitty thing
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Sep 2 2024 01:11am
Quote (EternalFlight @ Sep 2 2024 04:51pm)
Yes d4 is poorly designed
No end game and it takes day and half to not want to play anymore and die from boredom
People hyped about runes words and they wasted their best card on this like seriously
Just make runes like d2 hard to obtain but actual make the give u unique properties and stuff like d2 not some shitty thing


if you look at graphic designing (monster, character, skill arts, etc...) and class identity, i'll say d4 wasn't bad designed. D4 has a good foundation and not to mention the theme of being in diablo sequel. But the biggest turning off point is dev don't know what they want people to do at late game. d4 doesn't have that diversity in itemization like d2 so people won't be farming forever to fill their holy grail collection. At this point, d4 dev is more like, ohh mr A wants faster leveling and seeing his char do billions of damage, sure we'll give them that. mr B wants easier way to loot and farm, sure we'll give them hordes. I don't understand d4 dev, they save their project for d4 for years but they couldn't wait another 1-2 years to fully complete the game so they don't have to release then move on to completely change the game core after first 3 seasons. If people think runewords is hype then that's a joke. Instead of selling a cool sword for 100bil now, next season it'll be 100bers for a sword just like how botters destroyed d2, d4 always has problems dealing with dupers so no idea how they're gonna be handling duped runes
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Sep 2 2024 01:31am
Quote (junkie1991 @ 2 Sep 2024 10:11)
if you look at graphic designing (monster, character, skill arts, etc...) and class identity, i'll say d4 wasn't bad designed. D4 has a good foundation and not to mention the theme of being in diablo sequel. But the biggest turning off point is dev don't know what they want people to do at late game. d4 doesn't have that diversity in itemization like d2 so people won't be farming forever to fill their holy grail collection. At this point, d4 dev is more like, ohh mr A wants faster leveling and seeing his char do billions of damage, sure we'll give them that. mr B wants easier way to loot and farm, sure we'll give them hordes. I don't understand d4 dev, they save their project for d4 for years but they couldn't wait another 1-2 years to fully complete the game so they don't have to release then move on to completely change the game core after first 3 seasons. If people think runewords is hype then that's a joke. Instead of selling a cool sword for 100bil now, next season it'll be 100bers for a sword just like how botters destroyed d2, d4 always has problems dealing with dupers so no idea how they're gonna be handling duped runes


And as a final solution, they choose to stick to d3 strictly linear progression. What a glorious finale. I would that is something d4 deserves.
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Sep 2 2024 02:59am
Quote (Madmaxio @ Sep 2 2024 05:31pm)
And as a final solution, they choose to stick to d3 strictly linear progression. What a glorious finale. I would that is something d4 deserves.


D3 is pretty dead now so that turned out great :wacko:
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Sep 2 2024 06:12am
Quote (junkie1991 @ 2 Sep 2024 11:59)
D3 is pretty dead now so that turned out great :wacko:


Yet that is what they are doing, so...
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Sep 2 2024 09:27am
Quote (ADDreen @ Aug 29 2024 09:28pm)
Been a lifer for the Diablo series...was stupid excited once D4 was excited...been waiting an entire year for it to get gud...now I'm watching POE2 interviews...shit is night and day. It's going to completely obliterate D4...and it's FREE.
Will be the first time I've not preordered a sequel to D1.

Anyone else thinking the same?


poe is using a "free to play" business model but its far from free. its the best business model today because it generates the highest income :mellow: gacha games are also "free to play", except they severely gimp the player who doesnt pay. poe uses the exact same model as gacha games and in the exact same way :mellow:

by this logic life is also "free". you can live close to a river and you will have food and water and in theory dont need to pay for anything. i dont see many people doing it though <_<

Quote (ZzEzZ @ Aug 31 2024 06:56am)
Not sure why so many say "ANd iT's a FrEe Geym", then immediately go load up a guide that starts with "go buy $60 worth of stash tabs since they are mandatory to play more than 10h of the game".

Ya PoE & PoE 2 are sick, but anyone who says they are free games are either delusional or intellectually dishonest.


100% true
is poe a good game? sure. is it actually free? not by a longshot
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