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Aug 22 2024 02:24am
Quote (junkie1991 @ Aug 22 2024 01:22am)
yes. the lucky hit is nice and all but you'll lose 1 aspect(x 0.3 multiplier) as well as 75% ga critdamage and crit damage tempering. i'm not too sure what's the max roll on crit tempering at 12/12 but you're looking at least -200% splintering damage and also losing that .3 multiplier from stormwell. but if you're only running hordes then that does not matter. things will melt instantly anyway. all this calculations are only worth to look into if you're planning to push high pits


Well i wanna solo 3p t8 council quickly so i need the dps. Ur selling me on the 3 ga gloves rn 😂

Imma have to prolly buy one. You think int crit dmg and dmg would be the way to go? Or int crit dmg and attk speed?
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Well i wanna solo 3p t8 council quickly so i need the dps. Ur selling me on the 3 ga gloves rn 😂

Imma have to prolly buy one. You think int crit dmg and dmg would be the way to go? Or int crit dmg and attk speed?


if you're looking to buy then it will be crit attspeed and crit damage. you then temper for spear lucky hit and more critdamage. after that try to roll masterworking x3 on the tempering crit damage. they are expensive as hell now tho lol
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if you're looking to buy then it will be crit attspeed and crit damage. you then temper for spear lucky hit and more critdamage. after that try to roll masterworking x3 on the tempering crit damage. they are expensive as hell now tho lol


Ah, makes sense. Thank you for all your help bro. Appreciate the feedback 🫡
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I agree with all that has been said except fists of fate are good gloves if you are starting out. If you still have low cdr, the lucky hit will proc more orbs and bring back your spear cd faster.
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Quote (Bart1989 @ Aug 22 2024 03:49am)
I agree with all that has been said except fists of fate are good gloves if you are starting out. If you still have low cdr, the lucky hit will proc more orbs and bring back your spear cd faster.


Quote (junkie1991 @ Aug 22 2024 01:25am)
if you're looking to buy then it will be crit attspeed and crit damage. you then temper for spear lucky hit and more critdamage. after that try to roll masterworking x3 on the tempering crit damage. they are expensive as hell now tho lol


Hey friends, i have a follow up question regarding what aspect would be best for a glove if you dont mind.

Storm swell only increases damage for vulnerable enemies, which will never be the case vs a boss right? As they cant be cc’d, it would be useless when trying to optimize dps vs boss monsters. Splintering energy im assuming should be exclusive for staff as it provides the most dmg.

Right now im considering aspect of overwhelming currents, battle caster’s aspect, edgemasters aspect, accelerating aspect cause frozen orb is a core skill, conceiter seems really good too, not sure if exploiters work vs bosses (not sure if they are unstoppable by default? But that would he huuuge)

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Hey friends, i have a follow up question regarding what aspect would be best for a glove if you dont mind.

Storm swell only increases damage for vulnerable enemies, which will never be the case vs a boss right? As they cant be cc’d, it would be useless when trying to optimize dps vs boss monsters. Splintering energy im assuming should be exclusive for staff as it provides the most dmg.

Right now im considering aspect of overwhelming currents, battle caster’s aspect, edgemasters aspect, accelerating aspect cause frozen orb is a core skill, conceiter seems really good too, not sure if exploiters work vs bosses (not sure if they are unstoppable by default? But that would he huuuge)


I think Storm Swell works again bosses and it double dips (activates 2x) for multiple skills. I think it's even bugged atm and triples. I know Exploiters work against bosses (at least they did last season), but there is probably a reason why all the good players use Storm Swell. Just go with the guides.
Accelerating for one, is useless because you're not supposed to be spamming frozen orbs fast.

Just go with Storm Swell :)
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Hey friends, i have a follow up question regarding what aspect would be best for a glove if you dont mind.

Storm swell only increases damage for vulnerable enemies, which will never be the case vs a boss right? As they cant be cc’d, it would be useless when trying to optimize dps vs boss monsters. Splintering energy im assuming should be exclusive for staff as it provides the most dmg.

Right now im considering aspect of overwhelming currents, battle caster’s aspect, edgemasters aspect, accelerating aspect cause frozen orb is a core skill, conceiter seems really good too, not sure if exploiters work vs bosses (not sure if they are unstoppable by default? But that would he huuuge)


Stormwell. You’ll have 100% uptime on vulnerable fighting anything as well as having a barrier up. Yes all bosses are considered unstoppable. And guy above is right, stormwell is bugged atm, it tripledipped. Just go with stormwell, frozen orbit, splintering on staff and orange herald on pants if you’re not using tibaults.
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Quote (Bart1989 @ Aug 23 2024 06:36am)
I think Storm Swell works again bosses and it double dips (activates 2x) for multiple skills. I think it's even bugged atm and triples. I know Exploiters work against bosses (at least they did last season), but there is probably a reason why all the good players use Storm Swell. Just go with the guides.
Accelerating for one, is useless because you're not supposed to be spamming frozen orbs fast.

Just go with Storm Swell :)


You will need a bit of attackspeed to ultilize your good cdr, around 40-45% attackspeed is a safe spot i think. And yes your comment above about fist of fate is right, but only if you freshly just got in this season. This guy has grinded being a frozen orb sorc for a while so i assumed he’s done well with shako and as he mentioned before, he already MW x3 into cdr on winterglass.
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Stormwell. You’ll have 100% uptime on vulnerable fighting anything as well as having a barrier up. Yes all bosses are considered unstoppable. And guy above is right, stormwell is bugged atm, it tripledipped. Just go with stormwell, frozen orbit, splintering on staff and orange herald on pants if you’re not using tibaults.


Quote (junkie1991 @ Aug 22 2024 04:06pm)
You will need a bit of attackspeed to ultilize your good cdr, around 40-45% attackspeed is a safe spot i think. And yes your comment above about fist of fate is right, but only if you freshly just got in this season. This guy has grinded being a frozen orb sorc for a while so i assumed he’s done well with shako and as he mentioned before, he already MW x3 into cdr on winterglass.


for accelerating aspect, since frozen orbs are cast by conjurations, does a crit from those conjurated orbs increase your overall attack speed by 40% since its a core skill? meaning my lightning spear atk speed is affected by this increase?
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for accelerating aspect, since frozen orbs are cast by conjurations, does a crit from those conjurated orbs increase your overall attack speed by 40% since its a core skill? meaning my lightning spear atk speed is affected by this increase?


yes. it does proc accelerating through the frozen orb spawned from winterglass. but you only need to worry about attackspeed if you have 3 ranks into conj cdr on winterglass and your spears cooldown is <5.4sec which is about 74% cdr

here a stats sheet of a whale i had a peak into

att speed 50.2
crit chance 90.6
crit damage 2675.9
vul 343.7
cdr 74%
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