i dont think d4 numbers are that good simply because they would boast about them if they were
my estimate would be that the current number of d4 players are around 2~4x the poe numbers, which is nothing special
although ehhh...i have to sadly admit jsp is also a relic of the past and our numbers are much lower than before
i remember just a few years ago trusted tag wannabees were battling each other in general help by who would be the first to give you a useless link...now its empty
and lemme tell you brothers, the first sign of a failing institution is lack of people of a..specific mindset that try to climb to the top of it
and you know what type of people im talking about. those who were infiltrating church back when it was powerful, those who are infiltrating politics now...well that type of people is everywhere where theres power to be had, and i dont see them in general help anymore. i think that sadly jsp will become irrelevant before d4 does