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Nov 1 2023 07:41am
Quote (Snyft2 @ Nov 1 2023 03:48pm)
heh this reminds me of the first time i hit the gym
got some beginner gains, then told to the gym owner that im gonna stop coming to the gym cause im getting too big and i dont wanna look like arnold

he was like dont worry bro, you couldnt even if you wanted to :lol:

so...yeah. d4 will never be like d2
because it cant. d2 was legendary and d4 is shit and will always remain shit
sry guys i know this is d4 section but lets be honest here ^_^


honestly it was great game long time ago.
Now it is not. I love it. I spent a lot time in it, but we have to accept the truth - it is bad in almost every aspect comparing other titles.
It reminds me all this old men who talks that all was better 20 years ago. Games were making with love, girls were better, sun lighter, etc, etc.

In fact, we have legendary title that was very good long time ago and that is okay for now. I play it for some time every season, but in comparison you can feel the difference. And how ugly and uncomfortable it is nowadays :)

If it were as good as you describe there will be ton of new players. But they dont want to play it :)
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Nov 1 2023 08:40am
Jsp is a fairly small market relative to the d4 player base. You have a limited demand for supply, and there are a ton of people offering services here.

And although s2 was a marked improvement, the core game play and itemization hasn’t changed enough for people who no lifed s0 and s1 to spend more than a few weeks in it.

I personally lasted until level 60 or so. The mount changes were nice, the vampire zones were cool, and stashes every 5 feet are neat. However, I’m still playing item filter simulator at the end of the day. Plus the game is easy mode and built for entry RPG players.. so there’s no point to min maxing.

Also had 5 IRL friends playing who quit and never looked back. When I ask them they say, “why would I waste my time with Blizzard?”

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Nov 1 2023 10:16am
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honestly it was great game long time ago.
Now it is not. I love it. I spent a lot time in it, but we have to accept the truth - it is bad in almost every aspect comparing other titles.
It reminds me all this old men who talks that all was better 20 years ago. Games were making with love, girls were better, sun lighter, etc, etc.

In fact, we have legendary title that was very good long time ago and that is okay for now. I play it for some time every season, but in comparison you can feel the difference. And how ugly and uncomfortable it is nowadays :)

If it were as good as you describe there will be ton of new players. But they dont want to play it :)


well yes but i dont think that means the game is bad :unsure:

first of all the fact that it looks "ugly and uncomfortable" doesnt mean its bad cause you are comparing it to things that are 30 years advanced in technology. by the same logic you could say that lets say an aston martin DB5 is bad because hey, a fucking chinese car can outrun it now <_< we cant compare stuff with far advanced technology to it, cause by that logic you could say that literally every game ever will be bad because there will be much more advanced games in the future :unsure:

and second, yes games were made with love, and are now just made for the money :( and girls were indeed better, now every 2nd girl has fillers and tattoos and is ugly af. man, fuck tattoos and plastic body parts and manly waistlines.. and the sun was brighter because now i cant see shit due to pollution and vapor trails. so why are there no new players? because we, the old d2 players, just had our time with it, and the goddamn zoomers have been primed into different (and objectively worse) stuff since young age :wacko: its the same reason why i listen to turbo folk even though it kills you on the inside, because i didnt have anything else when i was a kid so now im used to liking it :cry: you know that meme helikopter song? we actually LIKE that because thats what we have been primed with since young age :cry:

my theory is, i dont think im a boomer when i say everything was better. things were actually better :cry: and i think we are actually the only generation that has any right to say which game is bad and which isnt, because we know how a good game feels like. zoomers are plebs compared to us and their opinions on this should be ignored imo!

personally the only reason i dont even touch d2 anymore is nostalgia, it reminds me that im old af :cry:
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Nov 1 2023 10:22am
I don't understand why [insert generations after you] like [insert content that you don't like]! In my day, [insert your generation] liked [insert content that you like] and that is the best content! Also, [insert previous generation] hated that stuff haha
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Nov 1 2023 10:22am
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personally the only reason i dont even touch d2 anymore is nostalgia, it reminds me that im old af :cry:


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Nov 1 2023 10:35am
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well yes but i dont think that means the game is bad :unsure:

first of all the fact that it looks "ugly and uncomfortable" doesnt mean its bad cause you are comparing it to things that are 30 years advanced in technology. by the same logic you could say that lets say an aston martin DB5 is bad because hey, a fucking chinese car can outrun it now <_< we cant compare stuff with far advanced technology to it, cause by that logic you could say that literally every game ever will be bad because there will be much more advanced games in the future :unsure:

and second, yes games were made with love, and are now just made for the money :( and girls were indeed better, now every 2nd girl has fillers and tattoos and is ugly af. man, fuck tattoos and plastic body parts and manly waistlines.. and the sun was brighter because now i cant see shit due to pollution and vapor trails. so why are there no new players? because we, the old d2 players, just had our time with it, and the goddamn zoomers have been primed into different (and objectively worse) stuff since young age :wacko: its the same reason why i listen to turbo folk even though it kills you on the inside, because i didnt have anything else when i was a kid so now im used to liking it :cry: you know that meme helikopter song? we actually LIKE that because thats what we have been primed with since young age :cry:

my theory is, i dont think im a boomer when i say everything was better. things were actually better :cry: and i think we are actually the only generation that has any right to say which game is bad and which isnt, because we know how a good game feels like. zoomers are plebs compared to us and their opinions on this should be ignored imo!

personally the only reason i dont even touch d2 anymore is nostalgia, it reminds me that im old af :cry:


got you dad. World moves forward, like you it or not. There is classic like diablo. There is good and popular classic like cs. And there are new games that are better then just classic. Like d4.
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Nov 1 2023 10:46am
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I don't understand why [insert generations after you] like [insert content that you don't like]! In my day, [insert your generation] liked [insert content that you like] and that is the best content! Also, [insert previous generation] hated that stuff haha


humanity going downhill so this is completely logical ^_^

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got you dad. World moves forward, like you it or not. There is classic like diablo. There is good and popular classic like cs. And there are new games that are better then just classic. Like d4.


backward*
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Nov 1 2023 10:56am
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humanity going downhill so this is completely logical ^_^



backward*


indeed

“The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.”
― Socrates
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indeed

“The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.”
― Socrates


exactly, not much time after that ancient greece collapsed :( this isnt the first time this happens, one more reason why im amazed how people dont see it :unsure: if anything, collapse this time will be even faster due to everything being interconnected much more!
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Nov 2 2023 03:07am
D4 will (unfortunately) never ever turn into something like D2.

I still play it, but if I am 100% honest, then its not much more then a waste of time.

D2 is lightyears better.
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