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Sep 4 2023 06:54pm
Quote (IMCL85 @ Sep 4 2023 08:50pm)
caught a fromsoft fan boi here, hell nah bruh. last decent game from fromsoft was bloodborne, that another game I would say pretty decent after 2012 the atmosphere in there give me chill to this day. they haven't really made anything new since then. elden ring was just a copy paste of dark souls with an open world map, I played 250 hours into that game. dungeon r repetitive as fuck, so r most of the bosses u fight in those dungeon. I fought many of the same boss couple time over, only thing fun and saving grace from that game was u go in pvp and try to gangbang invader or u try to take on a gang but still the concept was from dark souls 1 nothing new here.


I wouldn't call myself a fromsoft fanboi. I've only ever owned two of their games - Dark Souls / Elden Ring.

Obviously certain things in games are going to repeat as development time is limited. The amount of content in the game isn't small by any measure though. Playing over 250hrs in a single player game doesn't exactly sound like you hated it. How did you have the will to push forward and put a couple hundred hours into a bad game?

One of the only game I've ever continued to play despite being bored was Diablo 3. I tried to make myself like it because I was a fan of the franchise from the start and I thought blizzard couldn't do any wrong. Eventually I gave up on it after all my friends quit and I realized I wasn't even enjoying it myself. Quality social interaction can keep people playing a bad game too. WoW is one of those games where you can be bored with the content, but you go for the latest guild drama or hilarious banter.

This post was edited by BlakeXeal on Sep 4 2023 07:04pm
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Sep 4 2023 07:03pm
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I wouldn't call myself a fromsoft fanboi. I've only ever owned two of their games - Dark Souls / Elden Ring.

Obviously certain things in games are going to repeat as development time is limited. The amount of content in the game isn't small by any measure though. Playing over 250hrs in a single player game doesn't exactly sound like you hated it. How did you have the will to push forward and put a couple hundred hours into a bad game?


I played almost all the game I bough at least 100+ hours, I have over 300 hours in d4 basically doing it solo which was my opinion a bad game. sinking 250 hours into open world game these days r nothing, elden ring was not a bad game but its not generational shit as some ppl mentioned. its just our standard in gaming has degraded so much over the years that mediocre stuff get rated as game of the generation. same applies to BG 3 and the rest, if u r an old school gamer from 2000-2012. those r the days gaming industry r thriving with life and innovation. u know how most of the game today r just dog shit. u should give bloodborne a try, since u never own it. that game was probably peak fromsoft, not dark souls or elden ring.
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Sep 4 2023 07:06pm
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I played almost all the game I bough at least 100+ hours, I have over 300 hours in d4 basically doing it solo which was my opinion a bad game. sinking 250 hours into open world game these days r nothing, elden ring was not a bad game but its not generational shit as some ppl mentioned. its just our standard in gaming has degraded so much over the years that mediocre stuff get rated as game of the generation. same applies to BG 3 and the rest, if u r an old school gamer from 2000-2012. those r the days gaming industry r thriving with life and innovation. u know how most of the game today r just dog shit. u should give bloodborne a try, since u never own it. that game was probably peak fromsoft, not dark souls or elden ring.


Standards have degraded because triple a studios are constantly trying to nickel and dime people while releasing unfinished games now. The amount of store shops invading the gaming space is cringeworthy. That's why people think complete single player experiences are a breath of fresh air. It's strange how we went from fully completed gold titles to early access, half assed mess games that don't even have a real gameplay loop in their designs. They develop everything built around those in game purchase stores to cause players aggravation in normal progression to make "paid skips" a viable alternative. Instead of a normal grind you now have Korean mmo levels of grind that ruin the fun factor, all for the sake of cash shops.

Battle passes are also lazy content development disguised as interesting dlc when there's almost nothing interesting about them. You slap a theme together for the dlc, vampires, then give a player a game of simon says tasks to grant them cosmetics or some other arbitrary reward that's easily created content. People essentially paying to be told what to do in a game, rather than the game itself having any real depth.

Low effort games ultimately had a huge impact on pc/console gaming as well.
It's every Triple A Developer's dream to have an addictive game raking in billions every year that requires barely any development cost. Looking at games like fortnite and candy crush. The mobile game sector especially tainted the market with all it's slot machine sims or candy crush clones. Small risks with huge return, formulaic crap.

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all the AAA studio r being structure in a way like a factory these days, if u look at ubisoft and their open world title. there r fan boi over on youtube made video about them just crank these open world game out like assembly line. the last AC title they sold was soo bad, they r afraid to disclose the number of copies sold. AAA games has no souls, that why when u play them u felt empty. compare to the days I used to play a lot of use map setting game on starcraft broodwar and warcraft 3, I would say I have more fun there then playing any of the current AAA titles.


Still rock scbw a few weeks a year for shits. Great game still
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Sep 4 2023 07:11pm
Last Bethesda game I played was Morrowind. A little bit of Skyrim but not much. I'd like to keep it that way

No time, let alone ssd space to even install starfield lmao

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Sep 4 2023 07:25pm
Both titles are lowkey Games of the Year. Stunning achievements
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Sep 4 2023 10:14pm
Let's take a step back here this is not year 2000 when games were actually good this is marketing and sales looking after shareholders trying to extract as much $$$ from little kids as they possibly can. They over promise and under deliver just about every major game. It's turned into a nostalgia bait with micro transactions. Why are people surprised when this happens every year with almost every AAA game? The default expectation should be it will be utter buggy dogshit with fun factor of 0.1/10 and we will need to wait another year or 2 before new patches finally fix the game to a reasonable state. And if the game turns out somehow better than expected then it's a pleasant surprise. Otherwise big gaming companies should be help in extreme scepticism and their promises are less than toilet paper.

Diablo 4 and blizzard have done just that. Don't buy it unless you want another dogshit game because they will think they are doing good.
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Did anyone else notice starfield copied Diablo 4's early access game upgrade? This is going to be a new common trend where all games cost 100 dollars to simply play them on launch day. Just like I said they're nickel and diming customers with whatever they can cram into the game no matter how shady it happens to be. It used to be no matter what version you purchased at least even the players without as much disposable income could play on launch day of a game. Apparantly that's becoming more of a nostalgic memory though. Greed and shareholder stocks are at the forefront of every decision they make now. I can't think of something as a game when I see all the obvious cash grabs.

It's funny. You don't really know about the good times or a golden age in gaming until it is gone and everything is the company reaching it's hands out asking for more money like some sort of ebegging. I grow weary of the ebegging and it has only just begun. They'll break the immersion of gameplay if it means netting an extra 25 bucks for funneling you to an in game store that pops up as you're playing. It reminds me of advertising, or commercials, only they've shoved in the commercials of their own products, the very games we already paid for.

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Sep 5 2023 06:33am
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Did anyone else notice starfield copied Diablo 4's early access game upgrade? This is going to be a new common trend where all games cost 100 dollars to simply play them on launch day. Just like I said they're nickel and diming customers with whatever they can cram into the game no matter how shady it happens to be. It used to be no matter what version you purchased at least even the players without as much disposable income could play on launch day of a game. Apparantly that's becoming more of a nostalgic memory though. Greed and shareholder stocks are at the forefront of every decision they make now. I can't think of something as a game when I see all the obvious cash grabs.

It's funny. You don't really know about the good times or a golden age in gaming until it is gone and everything is the company reaching it's hands out asking for more money like some sort of ebegging. I grow weary of the ebegging and it has only just begun. They'll break the immersion of gameplay if it means netting an extra 25 bucks for funneling you to an in game store that pops up as you're playing. It reminds me of advertising, or commercials, only they've shoved in the commercials of their own products, the very games we already paid for.


They have been doing this with early access for a long time with video games. Diablo 4 didn't start the trend LMFAO

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