Soo then we should count every NM dungeon as seperate aswell. How many are there? Since you count that way for d2 end game

Endgame is not finding items.

It's getting rich to show off / be proud and pvp to challenge yourself / slay noobs.

Everything else are means to those ends.

It’s unfortunate. I don’t really like the idea of rollbacks. It generally punishes the wrong people as presumably the dupers have made their profit and unloaded everything.

If they can identify the folks who did the duping they should be banned. But I always question how easy it is to actually identify these folks who do these things.

Finding items is what gets you rich, makes your pvp char, ect....

What are you even talking about.

what s this 2 braincell take. if endgame is not finding item, how will you get rich? what will you show off ,your mtx? and own noobs with no items?.. the whole genre of arpg games is based around finding gg items.

If every nm dungeon didn’t feel exactly the same I might be inclined to agree. Unfortunately that’s not the case. Meph, chaos, and Baal are all very distinct activities that don’t feel similar at all

What you should be comparing nm dungeons to is the minute differences between the various level 85 areas in d2. If nm dungeons were a small fraction of the end game like those 85 areas are then the most widespread complaint about d4 wouldn’t be its utter lack of things to do after you hit level 70

Yeah sure. Teleport - kill. Rinse and repeat.

the game sucked before the dupe so...
i agree it doesnt help, but the game has major issues at its core which have nothing to do with dupes.

but yes, it is an issue they need to deal with.

This post was edited by C4NTWO on Aug 18 2023 11:40am

Linguistics maybe but finding items isn't endgame imo, its the stepping stone before the endgame

that just makes no sense....

the end game is what occurs after the campaign. pvp or pvm.

in pvp, you get a special currency to get more items since players dont drop loot.
in the pvm endgame, you fight stronger monsters for better drops or an increased chance at better gear.

for the most part, this game revolves entirely around loot. case in point one of the issues with uber lilith.

anyone who kills lilith once has basically no reason to ever do it a second time. again, fundamentals blizzard just got wrong...

This post was edited by C4NTWO on Aug 18 2023 11:47am