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Aug 7 2023 05:56am
Quote (UsEr_SeLeCtEd @ Aug 7 2023 09:03am)
naw it wasnt the meph runs that made d2lod enjoyable, it was the 50 different builds u could make across 7 very different classes. and all the items and crafting that went into it.
d clone hunts? uber trist runs? cows... key hunting... oh yeah then theres the pvp fpk melee tournament barb tournament ect.

or if u were like me and u just wanted to hunt people down while they were trying to level. we called it peekay


if d2 was released today u would say it sucks
the other guy was right, it's all about nostalgia
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Aug 7 2023 06:01am
Quote (trader @ 7 Aug 2023 12:20)
trade restrictions has killed the endgame pretty much as there’s nothing to endless grind for
but they don’t wanna have us play jsp so too bad


adding trading will kill d2r forever, so i supose its better for them to have 2 *medium games than 1 good
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Aug 7 2023 06:04am
Quote (OviMf @ 7 Aug 2023 08:05)
I mean lets be honest it can't be endgame or else I'd have to quit D2 always pretty fast.

For me it's somehow the twinking.
I have a 87 Druid with the gear I wanted (Tempest Roar) and running through NMD 50s on hc.

I will never wear Temerity on my Rogue. It requires level 80 and I don't see me leveling up another alt that high because it takes like 50+ hours (playing without boosts, solo).

I thought I'll give it a try and alt f4'd after seeing I have to do the short quest line for malignant season again. The only thing that is good is that renown I don't need to do because I will get all paragon points at lvl 50 from my main.

But come on... This can't be the reason. I don't know what but something is missing. Most of the time it feels like a solo player game and I can't find others without thirdparty sites or discord, my items I find even if best in slot don't make me happy.

I wouldn't even be happy with runewords from D2 at this point. I find myself logging in, doing 2-3 nmd and qutting them after I forget to free a prisoner or 1 enemy across the dungeon that I forgot. And Legions are just huge Zergtrains and I am never lucky to see Mobs because they explode a MS after they spawned.


Good question, I also always struggling to play some more D4 and to find this answer. But D2 is 20+ years old, for it's time it was not boring in end game (it was really fun, even for adult people).
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Aug 7 2023 06:10am
Quote (zeLL072 @ 7 Aug 2023 14:56)
if d2 was released today u would say it sucks
the other guy was right, it's all about nostalgia


Completely disagree with nostalgia argument.

Look at D2 situation - the time it was released (or even D1), I personally saw a lot of adults playing it constantly and everybody was happy because it was top-end game for genre (for that point in time) - and compare it with D4 situation, where people are bored with the game 2 weeks after release, constanly crying on forums about game being boring and that there is nothing to do in it (even streamers).

This post was edited by Madmaxio on Aug 7 2023 06:12am
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Aug 7 2023 06:37am
I don't know what is missing.

Thats actually my problem. I think I actually quit playing D2 after 3-4 weeks into seasons after I got all my stuff too but I am not sure.

Maybe it's more of a "me"-problem that I probably dislike the concept of ARPGs in general. But then again I like playing them a while. I dunno. I'm lost lol.
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Aug 7 2023 07:26am
Crap itemization is a larger issue than lack of endgame material. D2 also didn't have much endgame but the loot was exciting. Now you barely get excited over drops ever. Unless you find shako (which won't happen for any of us), but even then you can't sell it so what will you do with it? Run for a few months around doing the same dungeons for no reason?

This post was edited by Nymph666 on Aug 7 2023 07:29am
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Aug 7 2023 07:41am
Quote (OviMf @ Aug 7 2023 08:37am)
I don't know what is missing.

Thats actually my problem. I think I actually quit playing D2 after 3-4 weeks into seasons after I got all my stuff too but I am not sure.

Maybe it's more of a "me"-problem that I probably dislike the concept of ARPGs in general. But then again I like playing them a while. I dunno. I'm lost lol.


Are you looking for more social and immersive elements like in an MMO?

For me D4 is a good game in the campaign and up to like 60-70, but it really suffers in game play, end game itemization, trading, and a fun play loop. It doesn’t make you want to log back in and keep going. It feels like I’m losing by playing because it’s like 60% a good game and 40% an unidentifiable mess designed to make us spend money.
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Aug 7 2023 07:43am
Quote (Nymph666 @ Aug 7 2023 09:26am)
Crap itemization is a larger issue than lack of endgame material. D2 also didn't have much endgame but the loot was exciting. Now you barely get excited over drops ever. Unless you find shako (which won't happen for any of us), but even then you can't sell it so what will you do with it? Run for a few months around doing the same dungeons for no reason?


This oh my god. I get that RMT is a thing, but I’m already inundated with ads to buy gold, services, etc. I found trading and collecting just to be the “real game” in D2. The fact that finding a Uber unique means it gets to sit on just your account diminishes the potential enjoyment
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Aug 7 2023 07:53am
the game was designed to be fun for a certain amount of hours. You have reached those hours.

You will have to wait for an expansion and pay more money to enjoy the game further.
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Aug 7 2023 09:55am
Quote (CrueLThug @ Aug 7 2023 02:01am)
could of saved yourself like 200 hours if you just read the post a few weeks earlier lol. Im in the same boat with my 87 druid. Found all the gear etc. Tempest build. Do a few dungeons. Then boredom sets in. As a matter a fact. About too do a dungeon now knowing that nothing but a bunch of crap rares will continue dropping and i just sell em. Thats what the game is find "rares" sell em.


personally i think they screwed up by so many rares dropping every single second ~~~ it should of been a drop rate like 99% less. Given now it means absolutely nothing too find any items given they all do the same bs anyways.

and yes, the game totally feels like a totaly 1 player solo game entirely through. incredibly boring.


sorry you don't have friends that play the game

also why listen to the :baby: ? they are legit on here everyday crying about a game they have no intention of playing. If that isn't the definition of pathetic I don't know what is.

This post was edited by Uncle_Baby_Billy on Aug 7 2023 09:55am
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