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Aug 4 2023 01:33am
Quote (Da5id1an @ Aug 4 2023 01:04am)
well we all bought it, they made millions for releasing an unfinished, poorly tested, weak, and utterly disappointing mess and you know what? they will do it again cus it makes them money

blizzard isnt blizzard anymore

its dead

no one who worked on the games we love have anything to do with them anymore
they hire idiots whos only arpg exposure is D3 and DI

its a sad sad state when the grandfather of the genre is so pathetic


This one gets it. When they make a less than mediocre game and are celebrated for it upon release with sales figures it tells executives they can keep doing the same thing.

Maybe if we didn't have such a preorder culture there would be a much smaller monetary incentive to release unfinished products. People buy too much into name brands and expect blizzard to still release amazing titles. This is not the same blizzard that was more than capable of innovation and creation of immersive worlds. Now you're saddled with a development team that should have never made it past an internship in their field. They had to copy most of their ideas from D3, that should tell you something.

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Aug 4 2023 03:52am
Quote (Da5id1an @ 4 Aug 2023 08:04)
well we all bought it, they made millions for releasing an unfinished, poorly tested, weak, and utterly disappointing mess and you know what? they will do it again cus it makes them money

blizzard isnt blizzard anymore

its dead

no one who worked on the games we love have anything to do with them anymore
they hire idiots whos only arpg exposure is D3 and DI

its a sad sad state when the grandfather of the genre is so pathetic


Ye that's main point, how did highest rated developer come to this state of product.
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Aug 4 2023 03:55am
Quote (tastegw @ 4 Aug 2023 05:26)
I was so hyped when I heard d4 was in development. I thought they would go back and make it more like d2 than d3.

years later after playing it for a month now, it's just so depressing.

no sets
weak gems
no runes/runewords
uniques suck, except the ones you will never find
certain aspects are mandatory
certain glyphs are mandatory
etc

there is no real options in builds other than cookie cutting.

this is due to how poorly they designed the damage/defense system.

I really loved that system in d2, the blocking, resistances, the attack rating and defense, with the exception of "magic" damage, it felt very balanced. tie in fcr, fhr, and other factoring aspects of a build, they really had a working system to build upon

why would they not take a working system and improve it. baffling.

then there is the whole trading scene...just kills it for me.
having items account bound is a terrible mechanic.

this was a massive failure IMHO. D4 feels like a big box store providing generic content, knowing it will sell due to its big name, but also knowing it's just garbage

Lastly.... HOW THE F CK IS THIS DIABLO WHEN THERE IS NO DIABLO????


I think main failure here is horrible pool of affixes - big part of them just should not be in the game. Especially if lucky hit, if crit, if x% chance concept.
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Aug 4 2023 09:47am
the worst about all of this, is that they only had to copy themselves... :cry:
d2 only needed a lore facelift + new content to make d3, not have its complete foundation removed in favor of inferior systems.



Quote (Madmaxio @ Aug 4 2023 05:55am)
I think main failure here is horrible pool of affixes - big part of them just should not be in the game. Especially if lucky hit, if crit, if x% chance concept.


its not just affixes, the whole d3 type legendary aspects are just bad. but ya, the affixes are bad...

wheres my cube? wheres my soj? wheres my anni/torch? d4 pisses me off... :lol:

This post was edited by C4NTWO on Aug 4 2023 09:53am
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Aug 4 2023 09:55am
At this point they might as well sell Diablo IP to someone else. I expect Microsoft to release D5 under different brand to alleviate brand association with Blizz/Activision.

D4's loot is soo bad it actually makes me not want to loot. I tried to play the game last few weeks, logged into character select and logged out right away.

If a game makes you quit at character select, you know it's done.
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Aug 4 2023 10:48am
You mean to tell me you don't like 50 different damage modifiers based on where you're standing and what time of day it is?
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Aug 4 2023 12:46pm
I remember first buying Diablo 2 when I was 10 years old solely because of it being a Blizzard game. I knew NOTHING about the game -- never saw it on TV, never looked at review sites, etc. I didn't need to know anything else besides who made it -- I played Warcraft 2 and Starcraft... I just knew that the company had the Midas touch.
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Aug 4 2023 12:57pm
Quote (meowcow @ Aug 4 2023 02:46pm)
I remember first buying Diablo 2 when I was 10 years old solely because of it being a Blizzard game. I knew NOTHING about the game -- never saw it on TV, never looked at review sites, etc. I didn't need to know anything else besides who made it -- I played Warcraft 2 and Starcraft... I just knew that the company had the Midas touch.


Starcraft BW, D2 LOD and WC3 all around the same time. Damn, those games were ELITE.

Now we get games that come out unfinished because they can get people to pay microtransactions if they release it early. I blame people who buy microtransaction shit as the downfall of gaming. Even FPS games are shit now like COD. Even Cod 3 years ago was elite, but then they tried to make it different and better with WZ2 and now its trash as fuck

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Aug 5 2023 05:31am
2.2 on metacritic



even Hawg is turning against d4, rofl
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Quote (ChocolateCoveredGummyBears @ Aug 5 2023 07:31am)
2.2 on metacritic

https://i.gyazo.com/983cd8654655bd396fcd4ca0ee2909ff.png

even Hawg is turning against d4, rofl


Hey I hope you don't mind but when I applied to be the lead developer for season 2 at blizzard I used you as a reference. Please tell hr that I have a good work ethic and my trolling here is a 200iq reverse psychology method to find out how to make diablo 4 great again.

I think that I'll get the job! (I'm excited to work alongside crossed)
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