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Jul 18 2023 03:37pm
Quote (cjw236 @ Jul 18 2023 11:28pm)
Did you even read OP’s post, or the one that I responded to? Or did you just insert generic response?

Go and play for a couple hours, there’s broad nerfs across classes. I play two different classes in pvp and have done T90+ nm dungeons on a third class. Even if hearts bring power in-line, why would we celebrate a straight nerf?


i tryed some barb vs barb pvp and all the fun is gone.... we are all immortal unless we get too tired to spam the stupid hammer. then we finally met a rogue lvl 90 and we understood that alt + f4 is a very nice tool
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Jul 18 2023 03:38pm
Quote (cjw236 @ Jul 18 2023 05:28pm)
Did you even read OP’s post, or the one that I responded to? Or did you just insert generic response?

Go and play for a couple hours, there’s broad nerfs across classes. I play two different classes in pvp and have done T90+ nm dungeons on a third class. Even if hearts bring power in-line, why would we celebrate a straight nerf?


Blizzard's latest patch may appear underwhelming or even disappointing at first glance, as it might introduce changes that disrupt the established meta or alter beloved features. However, despite the short-term negative reactions, this patch holds the potential to significantly improve gameplay in the long run.

While initially causing frustration and confusion among players, these adjustments encourage experimentation and strategic thinking. By shifting the power dynamics and challenging established strategies, the patch prompts players to adapt and develop fresh approaches to gameplay.

By addressing fundamental issues or outdated mechanics, they pave the way for future improvements and expansions. While these changes might initially disrupt familiar gameplay patterns, they provide a solid foundation for more meaningful updates in the future. Blizzard's commitment to long-term development and the overall health of the game can result in a more refined and enjoyable experience over time.

Strong reactions are expected with such a wide reaching patch.

At the time of its release, LOD was met with mixed reactions from the player base. Some players were skeptical and initially disappointed with the changes and additions it brought to the game. Now LOD is widely regarded as one of the most impactful expansions in gaming history.

Similarly, the latest patch may initially face backlash and criticism, as it introduces changes that disrupt the established gameplay. Just like LOD these changes have the potential to improve the overall experience for the long term. Consider the new malignant hearts coming in Season 1. What makes the Malignant Heart mechanic particularly good is its ability to foster adaptability and creativity.

People were up in arms when Rares were added in D2, increasing the maximum affixes on gear, when Lances were no longer the best whirlwind Barbarian setup, and when runes were added and bugged items were deleted from characters. But still D2 LOD was loved and played for decades by people like me and others. I don't blame anyone for taking a break from the game in the short term. I honestly feel like in a year's time we will look back and laugh at how worried we were about Blizzard's decision making.

Do you remember when Buriza could no longer infinitely penetrate targets, and the pvp penalty up-ended pvp meta? Many sweaty nerds raged and quit, but the player base that stuck with the game over time showed that Blizzard was right, and the game became a certified classic, with pvp being what motivated dozens of players to set up thousands of bots to find the best Rare Items for Rare League duels.

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This post was edited by jyeyna on Jul 18 2023 03:40pm
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Jul 18 2023 03:48pm
Quote (jyeyna @ Jul 18 2023 05:38pm)
Blizzard's latest patch may appear underwhelming or even disappointing at first glance, as it might introduce changes that disrupt the established meta or alter beloved features. However, despite the short-term negative reactions, this patch holds the potential to significantly improve gameplay in the long run.

While initially causing frustration and confusion among players, these adjustments encourage experimentation and strategic thinking. By shifting the power dynamics and challenging established strategies, the patch prompts players to adapt and develop fresh approaches to gameplay.


To your point, the utmost complaint by the player base has been stale (same 3 stats) gear, and no end-game. As this does not change the end-game for anything more enticing, nor merritable, it does make you read an item more than the first 2 stats before dumping. I'm interested to see how the meta will now unfold, but (I think) have slightly less meta tiers nearly as efficient. I'm not defending blizzard nor particularly happy by the patch, I'm just gonna see how it goes. Theory crafting is a hobby, so I have that to enjoy
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Jul 18 2023 03:51pm
Quote (GGTheEnd @ Jul 18 2023 02:22pm)
You have a bunch of hearts in your gear already?


hearts wont save you from these terrible gameplay decisions by the devs
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Jul 18 2023 03:52pm
Quote (jyeyna @ Jul 18 2023 02:38pm)
Blizzard's latest patch may appear underwhelming or even disappointing at first glance, as it might introduce changes that disrupt the established meta or alter beloved features. However, despite the short-term negative reactions, this patch holds the potential to significantly improve gameplay in the long run.

While initially causing frustration and confusion among players, these adjustments encourage experimentation and strategic thinking. By shifting the power dynamics and challenging established strategies, the patch prompts players to adapt and develop fresh approaches to gameplay.

By addressing fundamental issues or outdated mechanics, they pave the way for future improvements and expansions. While these changes might initially disrupt familiar gameplay patterns, they provide a solid foundation for more meaningful updates in the future. Blizzard's commitment to long-term development and the overall health of the game can result in a more refined and enjoyable experience over time.

Strong reactions are expected with such a wide reaching patch.

At the time of its release, LOD was met with mixed reactions from the player base. Some players were skeptical and initially disappointed with the changes and additions it brought to the game. Now LOD is widely regarded as one of the most impactful expansions in gaming history.

Similarly, the latest patch may initially face backlash and criticism, as it introduces changes that disrupt the established gameplay. Just like LOD these changes have the potential to improve the overall experience for the long term. Consider the new malignant hearts coming in Season 1. What makes the Malignant Heart mechanic particularly good is its ability to foster adaptability and creativity.

People were up in arms when Rares were added in D2, increasing the maximum affixes on gear, when Lances were no longer the best whirlwind Barbarian setup, and when runes were added and bugged items were deleted from characters. But still D2 LOD was loved and played for decades by people like me and others. I don't blame anyone for taking a break from the game in the short term. I honestly feel like in a year's time we will look back and laugh at how worried we were about Blizzard's decision making.

Do you remember when Buriza could no longer infinitely penetrate targets, and the pvp penalty up-ended pvp meta? Many sweaty nerds raged and quit, but the player base that stuck with the game over time showed that Blizzard was right, and the game became a certified classic, with pvp being what motivated dozens of players to set up thousands of bots to find the best Rare Items for Rare League duels.

Signed:

HamsterMain#12890


If I join you and lick blizzards boots will they pay me too?
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Jul 18 2023 03:59pm
Quote (ghostGuts @ 18 Jul 2023 23:52)
If I join you and lick blizzards boots will they pay me too?


Calm your hakuna matatas man.
His first impression thread sound differently ( https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=101509873&f=168&p=649133795#p649133795 )

He took his time, let those frustration sink and get a clear mind and wrote this text.
I'm not agreeing with everything he is writing but he has a point.

But jyeyna please let D2LOD out of this discussion.. Blizzard has all expertise from D1, D2 and D3 and they created this mess/abomination of an ARPG.
Meta will change with this nerf but this shows how fundamentally wrong developed the game was in first place.
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Jul 18 2023 04:04pm
Malignant Hearts are going to be the new legendary aspects flavor that add new variety and things to experiment with.

The balance changes do not make anything much more "meta" outside of nerfing other things that felt good.

just be prepared for a few of them to be really broken op with funky interactions and then the devs kneejerk deactivate them for 3 days while they nerf/fix it.
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Jul 18 2023 10:25pm
Quote (cjw236 @ Jul 18 2023 02:28pm)
Did you even read OP’s post, or the one that I responded to? Or did you just insert generic response?

Go and play for a couple hours, there’s broad nerfs across classes. I play two different classes in pvp and have done T90+ nm dungeons on a third class. Even if hearts bring power in-line, why would we celebrate a straight nerf?


Id like to apologize, the game is actually so dogshit now I dont think I will be able to bring myself to even unlock hearts in S1.
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Jul 18 2023 10:26pm
Quote (GGTheEnd @ Jul 19 2023 12:25am)
Id like to apologize, the game is actually so dogshit now I dont think I will be able to bring myself to even unlock hearts in S1.


welcome to the club, you're one of us now :hug:
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