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May 14 2023 04:19am
very minimal for gold, maybe crafting mats and such
aka like D3 pretty much

ARPG with economy you have to go poe/poe2
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May 14 2023 05:46am
Quote (kku @ May 14 2023 01:19pm)
very minimal for gold, maybe crafting mats and such
aka like D3 pretty much

ARPG with economy you have to go poe/poe2


I think that if gold and crafting materials can be trade, then this already makes the economy in the game, right?
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May 14 2023 05:59am
Potions, crafting mats, gold, gems, rares, and of top of that gambled legendaries.
I won't be surprised if we will see some 50k fg deals on some lucky gambled leg items that rolled perfect aspect+affixes.
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May 14 2023 06:02am
In any case, the game looks great in 4k and 60 fps and is very cheerfully played on the gamepad :hail:
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May 14 2023 12:11pm
Quote (GLURMO @ May 14 2023 05:59am)
I played this stress test, and I can tell that I liked the game. But I felt the lacking of a trade mode.
Rare items on this stress test have always affixes that are lower than legendaries (on the same level)
If it is like that, in the endgame legendary item will be better that any rare item.
So the trade will be useless.


During the endgame beta, legendaries were pretty good, 5 affix plus the legendary one, BUT rares have 6 affix and you can extract the legendary affix off the legendary and add it to the rare giving it essentially 7 affix. BiS gear will be rares and they can be traded, therefore endgame is all about finding gg rares to trade.

We will have to see at launch if this stays the same.

This post was edited by icem199 on May 14 2023 12:11pm
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During the endgame beta, legendaries were pretty good, 5 affix plus the legendary one, BUT rares have 6 affix and you can extract the legendary affix off the legendary and add it to the rare giving it essentially 7 affix. BiS gear will be rares and they can be traded, therefore endgame is all about finding gg rares to trade.

We will have to see at launch if this stays the same.


I'm not talking about the number of affixes, but the quality of affixes. At same level, legendary items have stats way high than rare items.
So, if this is the way, depends on how many different affixes you really need for your build. Because if you are done with 4, you will go for the legendary items and unique items.
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May 14 2023 12:29pm
Quote (Methandienone @ 14 May 2023 13:46)
I think that if gold and crafting materials can be trade, then this already makes the economy in the game, right?


Yeah but If D4 gold is like D3 (high probability it will), then gold holds no value at all. Crafting mats will eventually tho - we‘ll see
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Quote (GLURMO @ May 15 2023 02:19am)
I'm not talking about the number of affixes, but the quality of affixes. At same level, legendary items have stats way high than rare items.
So, if this is the way, depends on how many different affixes you really need for your build. Because if you are done with 4, you will go for the legendary items and unique items.


I think bis end game will still be rares being imprinted with legendary aspects. With rares aside from getting more affixes, you get to reroll the ones you don’t need and specifically target farm the ones that you need to make your build stronger. One affix doesnt make the build but a combination of several + the legendary aspect especially when you’re going for endgame nightmare dungeons/ pvp. You would want to farm several sets of rares for each equipment set up - high burst DPS equipment, res stacking equip (shadow/pois/light/etc), high mobility equipment (+movement speed etc for the nightmare dungeons that have a damage source chasing you). It wont be about having one piece of gear but several sets of crafted/ tailored gear to your build which might mean you’d have to farm the aspects you need several times too.
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May 14 2023 06:59pm
Link to what the future of D4 trading will look like:

https://forums.d2jsp.org/forum.php?f=239
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May 14 2023 07:21pm
There's no item drop dopamine rushes to keep people playing. All these normies will quit fast.
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