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Aug 27 2024 12:59pm
Why does my damage suck? Or is it just because I'm used to my main sorcerer melting everything on the screen. Andariel rogue feels so damn slow.
I'm over the 185% attack speed cap, I have near 100% double chance for barrage. 199.2% lucky hit, almost the cap. What's going on?
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Aug 27 2024 01:46pm
Quote (Bart1989 @ Aug 27 2024 12:59pm)
Why does my damage suck? Or is it just because I'm used to my main sorcerer melting everything on the screen. Andariel rogue feels so damn slow.
I'm over the 185% attack speed cap, I have near 100% double chance for barrage. 199.2% lucky hit, almost the cap. What's going on?


Need more information. How is your build? How are your tempers? What are your masterworks? What is your rotation and setup?

If you want input, put in the time to build up a D4builds sheet of your character and share it here.

This post was edited by Xephyros on Aug 27 2024 01:47pm
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Need more information. How is your build? How are your tempers? What are your masterworks? What is your rotation and setup?

If you want input, put in the time to build up a D4builds sheet of your character and share it here.


I tried, first time using it.

https://d4builds.gg/builds/448fc49e-a6aa-4949-aa5a-1026af7dccee/?var=0

It seems I can't put GA on it but my Andariels has GA attack speed and Starless has GA lucky hit so that helps with reaching caps.

I just shoot around with barrage and try to refresh the bonuses with dash and/or shadow step. Place poison trap under me, try to stay close to enemies and hit the totem on boss. Death Trap on cd and a potion everytime to refresh unstable elixirs.

Paragon board is the same as Rob's
https://d4builds.gg/builds/5a76e3b1-74a8-4f89-a149-863ce8b9ec49/?var=0

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I tried, first time using it.

https://d4builds.gg/builds/448fc49e-a6aa-4949-aa5a-1026af7dccee/?var=0

It seems I can't put GA on it but my Andariels has GA attack speed and Starless has GA lucky hit so that helps with reaching caps.

I just shoot around with barrage and try to refresh the bonuses with dash and/or shadow step. Place poison trap under me, try to stay close to enemies and hit the totem on boss. Death Trap on cd and a potion everytime to refresh unstable elixirs.

Paragon board is the same as Rob's
https://d4builds.gg/builds/5a76e3b1-74a8-4f89-a149-863ce8b9ec49/?var=0


I don't see a paragon board filled out. How is your masterworking? It looks like you're using the pit push variant of the build, correct?
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I don't see a paragon board filled out. How is your masterworking? It looks like you're using the pit push variant of the build, correct?


Paragon board is the same as Rob's build, I linked it as well :)

I didn't know I was using a pit push variant, anything different compared to other content?
Masterworking is on the D4build I made btw
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Aug 27 2024 02:24pm
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Paragon board is the same as Rob's build, I linked it as well :)

I didn't know I was using a pit push variant, anything different compared to other content?
Masterworking is on the D4build I made btw


Usually pit pushing relies on mobs being stacked up and killing things together.

Don't trust rob for anything other than Barb content. All of his other content, even his latest barb video, is stolen from someone else. Two days into this season, he swapped over to Mekuna's Lightning Spear build because Barb sucked and now that someone has come out with a Ramaladni's build for Barb, he's back to making barb content.

For Rogue, normally trust Wudijo. I haven't seen much of his Rogue content this season though.

https://mobalytics.gg/diablo-4/builds/rogue/barrage?coreTab=assigned-skills&equipmentTab=aspects-and-uniques&variantTab=1

If you scroll down, there are three variants of this build. From my understanding, the umbracrux's main purpose in this build is for single target damage.
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Aug 27 2024 02:29pm
In previous seasons, all of Barrage's pierces and ricochets were completely wasted on Bosses, which led to builds that felt great while getting to the boss then fell short. Umbracrux allows us to spawn a Totem that absorbs all pierces and ricochets, making our Andariel's Visage proc generation skyrocket against Bosses.

The build has also gotten a lot stronger with the inclusion of Second Wind which essentially doubles our total life pool in the form of Barrier, as we can machine gun Barrages with no consideration for our Energy. Make sure to get to Rank 7 Second Wind through a combination of Skill Points and Tempering Affix(s) on Pants/Chest.

The Ultimate Cooldown Reduction Tempering Affix used on your amulet and ring comes from Necromancers. If you don't want to level a Necromancer you can use Trap Cooldown Reduction and utilize Death Trap instead. To use Shadow Clone you need 2x Ultimate Cooldown Reduction Tempering Affixes.
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Aug 27 2024 02:43pm
Thanks man, I'll look into it and probably change the build tomorrow. I'm not really playing rogue to do bossing so I'd rather have some generic build that can do other content.
I did level a necromancer for the ultimate cooldown reduction, but since the build was using Death Trap (and it's also a trap), I thought that would be better because it affects both that and Poison Trap.
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Thanks man, I'll look into it and probably change the build tomorrow. I'm not really playing rogue to do bossing so I'd rather have some generic build that can do other content.
I did level a necromancer for the ultimate cooldown reduction, but since the build was using Death Trap (and it's also a trap), I thought that would be better because it affects both that and Poison Trap.


I do know that Rogues are one of the fastest boss killers in the game. If you want a pushing/speed clearing build, look into possibly a variant of the Heartseeker build or a Rapid Fire build that is less single target.
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Aug 28 2024 04:01am
I also made Andariel rogue for fun after playing LS Sorc. Decent GA items, high rolls and 2x crit on needed items kind of helped, but still 1.5-2x slower than my sorc. Id say LS sorc is just far superior. Especially in Hordes - dont like poison dmg from Andy rogue, stuff dies too slow compared to sorc. Single boss damage was similar, maybe rogue even slightly better, but Hordes bosses quicker on sorc cause better aoe.
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