What's it like playing werewolf nado or lightning storm druid without tempest roar? Everything that I have read so far indicates that these builds don't really come online and become all that functional without the helm.


Thinking of screwing around with the druid from scratch (no power level/leeching) so would these builds be really all that gimped until I get myself this helm?

just play poison shred, it's what i've been doing. Plan was to play shred until i get the helm but it's a pretty fun build and i think ima just stick to it.

Poison creeper/landslide/trample/bulwark requires nothing as far as uniques go. There are a few different required aspects to make it fully functional but iirc only 3 of them come from legendaries, the rest csn be gotten from dungeon. It has huge aoe damage and really good cooldown. It's fun at first since it spawns lightning storm, tornado, hurricane, etc. But after awhile you kind of just watch your poison creeper cooldown as you either don't have it or get it 3x in a row. I highly recommend it as a starter or even permanent build. After getting my TR I swapped to werenado. More fun, but I don't have nearly as much ST damage. I can push 40s more consistently as werenado, but without bulwark spamming as I did with landslide I can't touch a 50+ (level 78)

Some of those builds (like Wolfnado) literally don’t work without tempest roar because of the mechanics where you don’t get to dip into wolf and natures magic/storm bonuses without the helm and/or be able to cast certain spells while in dire wolf/grizzly rage. But Druid has some good builds without the helm.

Poisontrampleslide is really good even without gear. Pulverize is perfectly fine. You could run poison shred.

Some of druids best builds use tempest roar but there are viable builds without.

This post was edited by TeenyUncle8 on Aug 4 2023 05:29am

Playing those builds without Tempest Roar is for the people who want to feel pain.
It's doable though, I am playing a Wolfnado without TR atm but it's not fun.

Just play pulverize or trample til you find a TR and then switch. Get your glphys up for wolf builds while spamming nm dungeons and don't get the glyphs for your pulverize, trample etc. up
They need to add a midgame unique that helps this build without TR. But they are bad designers so don't hope for that item soon.

This post was edited by OviMf on Aug 4 2023 05:39am

Bulwark build is easy and near unkillable without any uniques. Just a couple aspects and you're set.

Nado or lightning storm is trash without tempest roar

Poison shred is the best build that doesn’t require uniques

would you say bulwark with crone > pulverize with insatiable fury & vasys?

I just specced to this one yesterday and it is amazing. Went from doing tier 21's to Tier 40-50 just starting out

https://youtu.be/FOeBrdwyzu0

I haven’t watched the video yet, but I’m wondering why he has lucky hit on his items? Didn’t think this build needs it. I’m using a very similar setup to his, so just curious.

I have also tried removing the landslide teremote skill, removing landslide from skill bar, and putting a point into cyclone armor and moving that to the skill bar. I feel it’s better this way if you have good gear. You will have high crit chance anyways, and damage isn’t our issue pushing higher dungeons. I am still doing plenty of damage even in NM dungeon 90+. I struggle to survive tho.