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Aug 3 2023 08:26pm
I was so hyped when I heard d4 was in development. I thought they would go back and make it more like d2 than d3.

years later after playing it for a month now, it's just so depressing.

no sets
weak gems
no runes/runewords
uniques suck, except the ones you will never find
certain aspects are mandatory
certain glyphs are mandatory
etc

there is no real options in builds other than cookie cutting.

this is due to how poorly they designed the damage/defense system.

I really loved that system in d2, the blocking, resistances, the attack rating and defense, with the exception of "magic" damage, it felt very balanced. tie in fcr, fhr, and other factoring aspects of a build, they really had a working system to build upon

why would they not take a working system and improve it. baffling.

then there is the whole trading scene...just kills it for me.
having items account bound is a terrible mechanic.

this was a massive failure IMHO. D4 feels like a big box store providing generic content, knowing it will sell due to its big name, but also knowing it's just garbage

Lastly.... HOW THE F CK IS THIS DIABLO WHEN THERE IS NO DIABLO????
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Aug 3 2023 09:33pm
Blizzard makes really good D4 Cinematics n voice acting.

Better than making all the game's since WoW

Unless they targeting easier audiences to make billions

This post was edited by jaybomber on Aug 3 2023 09:33pm
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Aug 3 2023 10:01pm
Quote (jaybomber @ Aug 3 2023 11:33pm)
Blizzard makes really good D4 Cinematics n voice acting.

Better than making all the game's since WoW

Unless they targeting easier audiences to make billions


omg yes, those cinema's in d4, especially that long one, was epic, pure epic.

sadly the actual game is nowhere near that level of quality.
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Aug 3 2023 10:07pm
Ya i think its ridiculous that there is no DIablo. Instead theres stupid little dungoen bosses who get pked in like 2 lightning bolts ~~~ The game is very cookie cutter. Items are just so w/e ~ Already got my druid too 91, put on a tempest roar now just run through the game. Same baloney over and over until 100. Not sure what i will do once I'm lvl 100. Definately will not be making another char.
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Aug 3 2023 10:22pm
Making unique items hard to find it’s good but enable trading

Also item scaling with level it’s so stupid
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Aug 3 2023 10:54pm
i have been ignoring these d4 hate posts for some time. giving the game some time to settle and play... sadly, this thread resonates with me. Thankfully they gave us d2r just beforehand so at least now that we have confirmed d4 is in fact d3 garbage with sick cinematography is what we do have here. back to d2r. actually stoked was a good break. Cheers guys.
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Aug 3 2023 10:58pm
Quote (ridethesnow @ Aug 3 2023 10:54pm)
i have been ignoring these d4 hate posts for some time. giving the game some time to settle and play... sadly, this thread resonates with me. Thankfully they gave us d2r just beforehand so at least now that we have confirmed d4 is in fact d3 garbage with sick cinematography is what we do have here. back to d2r. actually stoked was a good break. Cheers guys.


Sadly d2r doesn’t have big community
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Aug 3 2023 11:04pm
well we all bought it, they made millions for releasing an unfinished, poorly tested, weak, and utterly disappointing mess and you know what? they will do it again cus it makes them money

blizzard isnt blizzard anymore

its dead

no one who worked on the games we love have anything to do with them anymore
they hire idiots whos only arpg exposure is D3 and DI

its a sad sad state when the grandfather of the genre is so pathetic
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Aug 3 2023 11:18pm
Quote (Mganga @ Aug 3 2023 09:58pm)
Sadly d2r doesn’t have big community


meh, i just like mindless magicfinding and demonslaying. messing around with different items and pvp with a few oldschoolers
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Aug 4 2023 12:55am
Quote (tastegw @ 4 Aug 2023 04:26)
this is due to how poorly they designed the damage/defense system.

I really loved that system in d2, the blocking, resistances, the attack rating and defense, with the exception of "magic" damage, it felt very balanced. tie in fcr, fhr, and other factoring aspects of a build, they really had a working system to build upon

Exactly. People act as if a “good itemization” or “endgame mechanics” or “class differentiation” could be designed on their own, as a separate entities. They can’t. It all needs to result from the structure of game mechanics underneath. D4 has no mechanics. You click and skill goes boom. Hard to build anything interesting on top of that.

Quote (tastegw @ 4 Aug 2023 04:26)
D4 feels like a big box store providing generic content, knowing it will sell due to its big name, but also knowing it's just garbage

Yes. A box providing generic content, knowing it will sell due to it’s name is probably a wet dream of every project owner in the corporate world. They don’t even try to build a real game anymore.

This post was edited by kayko on Aug 4 2023 12:56am
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