dude screw all the trolls there are glitches yes but they have a new patch like every week to fix thoughs MINOR glitches and no it takes like 2 min to download the new patches its a really fun game i love it can play for hours its like you look at the clock its 1pm then you look again and its 5pm in my opinion its an amazing game i say buy it bro

See look they write an essay on it. Who cares the vast majority like the game and some idiot who barely played it can't tell the millions of people who enjoy it.

And LOL @ the forum excuse. You realize all the people who hate it go to complain there while the majority are enjoying the game. Mass Effect 2s forums on Bioware were full of hatred, almost every other post negative. You realize that game ended up being one of the most critcally aclaimed games of all time? But the forums were full of people who hated it, they must be plentiful!

No other MMO has full voice acting, no MMO has any real story whatsoever. Every MMO has the same standard quest formula, there is nothing left to inovate, except add personality to it which Bioware did. It's revolutionary in the fact no longer is the game about the grind. Blizzard is trying to do that themselves, but they're no Bioware.

There's a small vocal minority who complain. That's extremely low amount of people. SWTOR is not only not losing that many people, they gain more every day.

Stop complaining, because the majority think you're laughibly wrong.

I'd say, wait for Guild Wars 2 to come ..

This, now that ive hit end game, pretty damn bored to be honest. Gonna get rid of my account ive decided.

Really want to play GW2 Beta atm.

keep kidding yourself.

if ui shit isn't fixed, clipping isnt fixed, graphical fuckups are not fixed, then the amounts leaving will grow exponentially. Using the HERO engine was their first mistake, it all went downhill from there.

And you are just ridiculous, mass effect 2 was far worse than mass effect 1 and if the community states this it is true as they are the paying playing consumer. Not some reviewer with a hard on for space and bioware.

Look me in the eye and say call of duty is a good game.

Becuase every 9.0 it fucking gets is pathetic.

The ONLY thing this game has is story, and it should have been single player rpg, it isn't an MMO.


Get@me, Tera is coming and THAT is the next gen MMO. It may not sell as much as ToR, but when all the games following use the same combat and you are still mashing your keys and tab targeting. ToR is through.

3-4

Its like an unrefined/less developed WoW.

If you prefer the space theme, or you're a fan of the starwars IP and want to circlejerk over voice acting that the majority of people wouldnt want to even listen to most of the time, and you're not tired of wow, then its a fine game. Otherwise, I'd rather just pay for WoW if i wanted such a similar game.

But SWTOR never set out to be very different from WoW.



TERA will be too eastern imo (yes, i know they are trying to westernise it), and will probably have a lot of bots/hackers. I'd say GW2 is looking most promising atm. But TERA could be really good too.

This post was edited by silentdeathz on Jan 13 2012 12:42am

TERA?? it has panda bears and anime girls where you can see their tits and stuff.. it's grind based and is in no way a next gen mmo.

Guild Wars 2 however changes the way we see MMO's and is truly a next gen MMO IMO.

...I dont think you understand the concept of "next gen"

The art style or direction has nothing to do with an MMO being next get (unless we saw a hyper realistic mmo, which we wont).

TERA can be considered a 'next gen' mmo because of its features such as manual targetting of spells and spells interacting with targets in certain ways depending on where exactly it hits the target. In other words, lots of hit boxes all over the target.

It wont be as grindy as the eastern version (im sure they will tune that for the western market) but it'll still have an eastern overall style/influence (which again, doesnt affect standing as a 'next gen' title)





GW2 doesnt really have THAT many next gen mmo features that are completely original. The idea of dynamic quests and so forth isnt new. The way they have done underwater combat and such however, certainly is.

Either way I'm VERY excited for gw2, not so much for tera because of its eastern style, but its a very interesting game because of its features.

If i remember correctly, TERA doesnt have a traditional holy trinity either.

This post was edited by silentdeathz on Jan 13 2012 01:29am

okey, but I'm going to stick with GW2. Always loved the first one so can't wai to get my hands this one!
TERA just seems too childish for me.

You can sign up for the NA TERA beta now, just a heads up.

EU too I think.

@topic
To sit here and say SWTOR isn't in trouble in the future is just ignoring the obvious. The game had great sales, it was released with Christmas, this is to be expected. However a decent number of people have quit the game already. There is simply nothing to do at 50. This game has some of the worst, least-skill based PvP I have ever seen in any MMO. Operations are laughably easy, including Nightmare mode, regardless of it being a first tier it's just a terrible start. The game actually has LESS features and looks WORSE live than it did in beta, that is 100% fact. Besides the voice acting, which 99.99999999% of the people spacebar through, the questing is EXACTLY the same. I don't need to listen to 5 minutes of voice acting for some guy to tell me to kill 30 droids. The game masks the bland questing and grind with the dialogue, stop pretending it's not there, or that the questing is new and innovative. This game has more loading screens than Everquest. Fly to a new planet, loading screen. Why the fuck am I on an Orbital Station now? Take an Elevator, loading screen. Take another ship, loading screen. Planet, elevator, loading screen. It's ridiculous. They're even 'real' loading screens half the time, it just fades to black for 5 seconds. Stupid and pointless.

The light/dark choices made for an interesting concept, but it really doesn't affect you whatsoever which side you decide to pick aside from your titles and possibly 1 or 2 different pieces of vendor gear. The mounts are exactly the same just different colors, everything is mirrored between light/dark and even republic/empire aside from story, there is no variety. Not to mention everyone looks the same at 50, more so than you did in WoW. And it's not even good looking gear, some of the worst looking gear I have ever seen.

I'll be generous and give the game a 7. It has a great IP, but as of right now, that's the only thing it has going for it besides it having the 'fresh' factor. Even though it isn't really fresh.

Bioware truly dropped the ball and this game wasn't nearly as creative or fun as it could have been.

edit: Forgot to mention that hardmode dungeons are stupidly easy as well, I find very little challenge in the game, aside from the challenge of overcoming the unresponsiveness of abilities and actions, especially as a Sniper. The crafting system has its up and downs, its ups as in you can just send companions out to do shit, and its downs as in you can send your companions out for TWO HOURS and they come back with nothing.

This post was edited by Xeonics on Jan 13 2012 01:49am