as in diminishing returns =p as surge/expertise and other stats has.. for pvp u still need around 500 expertise or u will get shattered, strength doesnt give any damage reduction as expertise does

True, and i have honestly not been tracking how much my skills damage has been improving.

However i have gone from 200k games in pve gear, too 300k-400k games.

Smash with a rakata adrenal popped does 2.5k per person. So i can get huge crits dependent how clustered/geared people are.

i've got hit for 6k by smash from a marauder (not a jugg!) and im in full battlemaster

Perhaps intense focus on surge? Although that has bad diminishing returns.

I'd guess 75-78% surge with massive amount of statted power and power relic, power adrenal and a nice build up of 4 stacks shockwave