Froggy, who gives you the right to tell others to STOP PLAYING MMORPGs? Like myself, as well as saying MMORPGs aren't for me? You fucking kidding me?

I've been playing MMORPGs since Ultima Online, then quickly moved onto Everquest. MMOs are THE BEST genre FOR ME, they are MY FAVORITE, so don't tell me NOT to play them or THEY ARE NOT for me.

I understand you're sitting here trying to defend your crappy game, BUT THIS GAME ISN'T FOR EVERYONE AS YOU CAN SEE!

Just because we have a different opinion of it, doesn't mean it is wrong, nor right! It is OUR opinion, and we are voicing it. So stop telling us MMOs aren't for us, or to GO OUTSIDE, or whatever crap you're spewing. You're on here more than anyone of us to begin with, so if anyone needs to 'go outside' sir, it's you.






4 player PvE is crap. I might as well be playing a single player game at that point. I'd rather go back to Skyrim. They would have made a much better game, and more money I'm sure, if they just re-made Skyrim into a Multiplayer game; just 2 people would have been great! 4 players? Holy shit; I'm crapping my pants right now just thinking about it.


This game is an MMO; MASSIVE, not some fucking Diablo game or Torchlight, or whatever Dungeon Crawler game where the max player limit is 4; this is an MMO... I do NOT want some half-ass easily conquered 4 player dungeons that can all be completed within 1 sitting.

We want RAIDS. This is an MMO.


Just like Diablo 3... total crap PC game; somewhat decent console game (but still crap)... JUST like how this crap is going to be. It will turn out to be a good console game; but SHIT PC game.

This post was edited by Brandon_Bishop on May 4 2014 12:16pm

No new MMO has ever rewarded rushing players with unlimited laddering end-game content. Ever.
Complaining about lack of content when you rush to v10 and ignore all other aspects of the game except trying to level is so foolish.

And I'm not telling people to go outside because they play too much. Don't make assumptions.

This post was edited by FroggyG on May 4 2014 03:16pm

Every person here that has expressed a different opinion, you have, including me.

I didn't intend on rushing, I just found out ways to level the fastest; and who wouldn't? Everyone knows the real game starts at the end... end-game. Leveling is a choir, and it is in this game if you go from quest to quest, and even then with VR ranks, you're left short.

It's not foolish; I enjoy end-game content. I enjoy the hardest parts of any given game. This is where the real challenge lies, but there is none here (for now). And that's all I have to say.


And yes, the last decent MMO to come out, Rift, had end-game content waiting for us from the start. So you're wrong. Along with other MMOs, the content was there.

This post was edited by Brandon_Bishop on May 4 2014 07:15pm

Leveling doesn't really feel like a chore to me, and certainly not a choir >.< But different people enjoy different things.

This made me lawl... Rage is awesome.

Also this is exactly correct. So correct I squirted on my laptop.

but to be fair, everything leading up to the end game content of rift was dumb. I played through it and I can't even remember any of the content or lore now.

ESO leveling has been really engrossing and cool. I'm actually not in a rush to powerlevel or grind or anything like that because the quest lines are entertaining.

To each his own, but for a new release I'd prefer engaging 1-50 content. They can always add end game content, but they can never re create that first trip through the leveling zones. Good product management decision by the ESO team.

This post was edited by hoodang329 on May 5 2014 10:07am

Are you doing VR Ranks yet? And if it isn't such a chore, then why don't you enjoy the time you're having and raise some proper gold to buy a mount instead of lowballing the hell out of my gold so you can buy your mount?


The story in this game is pretty damn good, of course it would be; look at where it is taking place and it's Bethesda/ZOS... you cannot go wrong here. Then again, if I want a good story; I'll read a fucking book. I have many of those, what I don't have are many good MMOs, and a "good story" isn't going to keep me PAYING to play one.

And for each of you saying that there was no end-game raids set out for the people at max level on release are fucking stupid. I just gave 1 example, and there are many others too! Everquest 1/2 even had them, even Allods did (F2P, was decent until the 1.0 patch), FF, etc. You'd think with the amount of money put into ESO, they'd have something for us.

Again, this is an MMO; not a dungeon crawling Diablo/Torchlight game where the max is 4-8 players in a game. Why sell yourself short by only giving people 4 player dungeons? It's ludicrous.


And hoodang; it's not just the 1-50 content once, but twice... and three times. Get to VR ranks... it's sooooo much fun... not.



This post was edited by Brandon_Bishop on May 5 2014 10:47am

lol I have, and I was just +1ing really and crossing my fingers, didn't actually expect anything.

I imagine the 4th playthrough of the game (to get the final class) will be a little less interesting since you'll have already done all 3 alliances, so you need to repeat one, but honestly the 1-50 content seems really doable 3 times since you'll have brand new zones and almost all brand new quests.

Rift end-game content was hardly anything.
It's just like the v10 dungeons that they have now.

If your only goal is to be challenged I suggest you stop playing mainstream MMO games.
They're balanced for average gamers.

And maybe leveling is a chore for you, but some people actually enjoy the game they play.

This post was edited by FroggyG on May 5 2014 03:59pm